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1/2 cab soft top... OEM???

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Jonas, Feb 16, 2007.

  1. Feb 16, 2007
    Jonas

    Jonas New Member

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    I went to a yard sale today and found a set of original split bench seats for my Willys CJ-5, but he also had a 1/2 cab soft top in military green canvas. It is in rough shape and the doors need to be completely redone, but it fits pretty good. I was just wondering if the canvas 1/2 cab would be original equipment, or aftermarket, and how rare is it? I cant recall ever seeing one before.
    Jonas
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

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    Yup, original, Snatch It Up Quick, Very Rare. The factory soft tops could be configured as 1/2 tops or full tops. Even if the canvas is shot the bows are rare to find & the canvas can be used as a pattern for a replacement covering.

    See here-

    http://www.beachwoodcanvas.com/store/

    Section 23, pg. 9 for details on the configurations. If you want to give yourself a good scare call'em up & ask about prices:twisted:

    H.
     
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    Jonas

    Jonas New Member

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    Pictures....

    Heres a couple of pictures of the top installed without the doors on...

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    Heres a picture of the split bench seats....

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    And heres a picture of the spare tire carrier... Is this a OEM carier? It is intergral with a trailer hitch.

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    Jonas
     
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    Sledgehammer

    Sledgehammer Sure, I'll try it

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    There is a man here that has an M38A1 with a canvas half cab. Honestly I know there are a few out there but that is the only one I've ever seen. That is a nice lookin JEEP.
     
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    Glenn

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    Good deal on the bench seats, and you hit the jackpot on the 1/2 top. The spare tire carrier would originally be bolted on the passenger side behind the wheel well. Nice JEEP! :) :hurrican:
     
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    Boyink

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    Would you guys really consider a soft-top "OEM"? I always consider soft-tops more "dealer-installed".

    Might just be picking nits....but none of the pics that I can remember seeing of Jeeps coming out of the factory on the way to dealerships had tops of any sort on them.

    But I have little knowledge of the military side of things - which this looks to be.
     
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    timgr

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    The Meyer steel cab could be sourced from the factory. You can tell a factory cab because it does not have latches on the windshield, instead it has plates. The Jeep mechanics said that their installations fit better than the factory's though. The dealership I worked at (Chuchua's in CA) never ordered a factory hard top AFAIK, though I did see one come in for service. Probably a more popular option in the snow belt.

    Re the soft top, AFAIK it was always dealer installed. This was a better arrangement becasue it made the Jeeps on the dealer's lot more adaptable to the user's needs.

    Not 'OEM' but instead 'period correct.'
     
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    Glenn

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    If something was a factory approved accessory, by a factory approved manufacturer, but installed by a dealer wouldn't it be OEM?
     
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    timgr

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    Mmm, terminology. Not 'factory' but 'OEM?' Not sure what to call 'factory-approved accessory dealer-installed at time of purchase'? OEM is probably correct since you could buy the stuff across the dealer's parts counter.
     
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    Boyink

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    "Depends on what the meaning of "is", is....:D

    To me - OEM means "built and installed at factory".
     
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    sparky

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    :iagree:

    Original Equipment (from) Manufacturer, not Original Equipment (from) Dealer
     
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    russnj

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    That would mean every part at the dealer is not OEM since it would have to be installed by the dealer or owner?

    Here is my 2 cents.
    OEM should be any part that is in the Jeep part lists for your particular vehicle, whether the factory installs it or not should not make a difference.

    Factory installed equipment and Dealer installed equipment should be different categories.
     
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    Boyink

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    I think it's clear we're not talking about a 1:1 replacement part for what came on the Jeep from the factory, we're talking about accessories.

    'Zactly what I've been saying all along - just my word for "Factory installed equipment" is "OEM"...;)
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    I'd say the soft tops fall into "OEM", they're in the parts manual, the brackets are definitely factory installed & the tops were made to Willys specs either for or by Willys.

    The 1/2 top isn't a military item, it's strictly a civvy thing for the CJs. Even the CJ full tops were a completely different design from the military ones.

    H.
     
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