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Detroit or Lincoln

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by NoFlyZone, Jan 14, 2007.

  1. Jan 14, 2007
    NoFlyZone

    NoFlyZone Member

    Ridgeville, SC
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    To weld, spool or detroit locker? I just picked up the 30 spline axles for my full float conversion. Money is certainly a factor here. Some have complain about detroits being a little unpredictable. THey are expensive.
     
  2. Jan 14, 2007
    JeepTherapy

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    I know... the same old question, depends on how your going to use it...

    I would say do the spool for off road only. Combo off road and street with mostly off road I still think I would do the spool. More street and I would do the detroit or a selectable locker. But you said money was an issue.

    With that, the spool is certianly cheaper than a detroit. Welding cheaper than that. With the welding I think you get what you pay for. Would sure suck to have someting give way and take out your spiffy new axles.

    I also wouldn't rule out a lunch box locker. Cheaper than a detroit and they seem to work quite well. I run detroits front and rear in green jeep. Powerlock rear and lunchbox front in the black one.
     
  3. Jan 14, 2007
    coby61

    coby61 Stupidiotic Member

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    Buy a 30 spline spool from Yukon gear for $140 and call it good if you are running over 33" tall tires. Bad thing about any locker in the rear on a short wheelbase is driving 35 mph and up in a curve it will "ratchet" to compensate and makes the rear get squirrelly. This real fun when the street is wet :) Don't ask how I know. A spool is more predictable in street driving and eventually a weld on the spider gears will break. IMHO
     
  4. Jan 14, 2007
    willysworker

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    My spool pushed my 3a thought a turn, big time. If both wheels have traction you will increase your turning radius a bunch. I pulled it and went with a Detroit Locker. Hi-way curves are just a matter of gas pedal use. It's not a sports car and you don't want to apply power until out of the curve. Only issue I have with my Detroit is free play. I have a Warn 30 spline full floater kit and the two have lot's of wind up before the free play is taken up. It's not in the clutch, it's in the rear. I don't like it or know what to do about it either.
    I think the choice depends on what type of driving you do. I like the tight turning and need the flat towing feature. I don't do dump the clutch launches so the free play shock isn't a factor, just annoying. If money is the only factor, I'd look for a used Detroit.
     
  5. Jan 14, 2007
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    A spool is a pig on the street, and hard on everything from axles to u-joints. I'll never run another spool on anything but a strip-only car ever again, and I can't understand the mystique about running one off-road. IMHO any kind of locker is better than a spool or a lincoln-locker any day of the week.

    If money is a factor, look for an Aussie or Lock-Rite locker for the 30-spline '44 and you won't be sorry. Yes, they all have their quirks but if it is slippery enough for stability to be an issue, you should be running in 4WD anyway!
     
  6. Jan 14, 2007
    goober

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    i run a mini spool on the street in my samurai, i dont even know its there, tire wear isn't as bad as expected, no unexpected lane changes clicks or booms from it locking and unlocking, overall i dont think i would run a locker over the spool. but to each his own.
     
  7. Jan 19, 2007
    NoFlyZone

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    What do you think about full spool and running with one side unlocked on the street?

    I'm either going that way or Lock-Right and flanges. I'm running 15 x 7 wheels and I'm afraid the hubs will stick out too far.
     
  8. Jan 20, 2007
    goober

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    lock-rights hold their own in the locker world, they are rebuildable which is always a plus(unless the gears strip). they're cheap which is why i love them but in the rear they do act kinda funny. it'll take some getting used to but you will get used to it and all the funny looks you'l lget from the ratchet and big bang sounds.
     
  9. Jan 22, 2007
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    I wouldn't recommend it. All the torque will be going to one axle not divided between the two. Good way to break parts IMHO. Nickmil
     
  10. Jan 24, 2007
    Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

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    I just installed a Detroit Softlocker and I'd say it has better manners on the street than the Lockright I just blew apart. I had the Lockright in for 5 years. You just learn to drive a little different with the locker. Power through the corners. It seems to dodge around the most when getting on or off the gas.
     
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