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lincolnlock dana 25

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by blownfuse, Dec 3, 2006.

  1. Dec 3, 2006
    blownfuse

    blownfuse New Member

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    I am thinking of welding up my dana 25,it is mostly a off road jeep
     
  2. Dec 3, 2006
    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

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    It'll be miserable. I welded the front in my 2a, and it was almost impossible to turn at times, even with hubs on the front and the shift interlock removed.

    Welcome to the board, I'm originally from Hickory and get back up that way fairly often so we'll need to meet up for a :beer:. There are also a few other members on here from that area also.
     
  3. Dec 3, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    how so ?
    if the hubs were unlocked, you shouldn't notice a thing as nothing is turning
     
  4. Dec 3, 2006
    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

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    Thats what I figured also.. But it seems more difficult to steer than before.......maybe my arms are just tired after trying to steer it with them locked in and it seems harder :oops:
     
  5. Dec 3, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    okay
    I thought maybe I read that wrong
    wonder why ?
     
  6. Dec 3, 2006
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Got saginaw? :twisted:
     
  7. Dec 3, 2006
    Olejeeps

    Olejeeps Dis Member

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    Hi ya Wes!!

    LOL! Jus do it!! We'll put another in if ya dont like it!
     
  8. Dec 4, 2006
    63CJ5UNIVERSAL

    63CJ5UNIVERSAL Member

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    I don't understand why, but it is the truth. I have argued with many people about this, and they said I was crazy. The cure for that is to put them in the drivers seat and let them try t o prove you wrong. I welded both the front and rear. Even with the front hubs unlocked, I do not have the turning radius of my Ford Superduty. When hubs are locked, you can forget about turning. Nice thing is that it will go over anything. It's nice cause you cannot go around
     
  9. Dec 4, 2006
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    If you had spicer U-joints the right joint needs to be indexed the same as the left. If they are not indexed or "phased" the same then every time you try and turn the u-joints will bind and make it hard to turn the steering. I suspect this is what was happening. Nickmil
     
  10. Dec 4, 2006
    Bear 11341

    Bear 11341 Bear

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    Vary good and to the point Nickmil. Bear
     
  11. Dec 4, 2006
    Olejeeps

    Olejeeps Dis Member

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    BTW W3srl...

    How do ya like the Lock-rite? Might be My next rear.
     
  12. Dec 4, 2006
    godevil

    godevil My Humor isnt appreciated

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    I used a lock-rite in my 25 and will agree that it is always harder to steer now,when the hubs are locked almost imposable to steer.
    I will also agree that it will go almost anywhere now,very little wheelspin on our Tellico trip but very sore arms the next day.
    I welded my rear 44 and have no complaints.
    Just thought I would chime in.
    Donnie
     
  13. Dec 4, 2006
    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    Lockright in my 25........works perfect

    What the heck is a Thomas built Jeep?
     
  14. Dec 4, 2006
    Olejeeps

    Olejeeps Dis Member

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    he he he...Like the Buses!
     
  15. Dec 4, 2006
    blownfuse

    blownfuse New Member

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    I have power steering that will help, I want to go to tellico this spring,but need to be locked up in the front. No money for lockers,married with kids ,do I need to say more,lol. Do you think that I will break an axle or just a pain turning in the trail?
     
  16. Dec 4, 2006
    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

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    You dont "need" a front locker to run at tellico. I took my stock 2a all over the place open/open with the excpetion of the major trails. I broke one of my front axles about 30 min after I welded it just playing around on the little rock garden we have here at work.
     
  17. Dec 4, 2006
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    :iagree:

    Just because you CAN do something, doesn't necessarily mean you SHOULD do it. The forces exerted on driveline components with a welded or spooled diff are many times that for which they were designed, and just plain silly IMHO when locking differentials are available, fairly inexpensive and very effective. Add to this the breakage that a little too much enthusiasm on the skinny pedal brings, and the locker starts to look VERY appealing!

    Still too expensive you say? Well, consider how often you will use a locker (every time you drive the Jeep) versus how much people spend on a shiny new warn winch that MIGHT get used once or twice a season. or consider those fake beadlock rims or the 5 KC Daylighters across the windshield frame that NEVER get used because most sane people don't wheel in the nasty stuff in the dark.

    Sorry folks, I'm solidly in the "do it right the first time" camp.

    <putting soapbox away>
     
  18. Dec 4, 2006
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    I agree Steve. I know it has been done and worked in the past but that does not make it right. Driveline brakes seatbelts are not to me places to skimp on. Accept it, Jeeping cost money.
     
  19. Dec 4, 2006
    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

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    Thats it I believe, I do know its east of Linkerton though :)

    In case you havnt, check out NC4x4.com There is some info and pics of the place there and a bunch of members in your neck of the woods. When I lived in Hickory, I met a bunch of the guys around there.



    Alright back to welding diffs. Weld the rear leave the front open if you dont have power steering, if so weld it all up and carry spare shafts, also switch from the bendix type joint to a Ujoint style.
     
  20. Dec 4, 2006
    Olejeeps

    Olejeeps Dis Member

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    YEA! Weld it up an' ifn it breaks...get another one!

    If ya dont agree wit dat, I would suggest not welding yours up!

    Aint bit me yet...(Knocking on wood...) an' Im jus too old to change I guess! he he he!:driving:

    BTW...Thanx for the headsup Neptco. Will chkout that site!
     
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