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Model 18 gaskets and seals

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jayhawkclint, Jul 21, 2006.

  1. Jul 21, 2006
    jayhawkclint

    jayhawkclint ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    My 18 leaks like a sieve. I bought a whole gasket kit from Quadratec. At a minimum, I am going to replace the front/rear output shaft seals, shift linkage seals, pan seal, and OD seal. I would like to avoid disassembly because it seems to be working very well and I don't want to mess that up, it just leaks. Are there any other seals in my kit that I can replace without tearing into it?
     
  2. Jul 21, 2006
    Old Bill

    Old Bill Aggressively passive....

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    One of the tricky leaks you might come across is the front bearing retainer. (where the shifters mount) The problem comes from all the shims that need to be stacked up. Tighten that up, and all the sealant oozes out. (There is no gasket there, thickness is critical) I don't recall how far you would have to disassemble the thing to take care of that part of it, so I'll hope that someone else can chime in. Also, the big secret to sealing up something is to be sure that the surfaces are SPOTLESSLY clean. No oil residue, no old gasket, just clean bare metal. You may find that to be quite the challenge without disassembly.

    FWIW, this is how I dealt with the shim pack and associated leaks. The trick is finding the proper thickness for your bearing and case.

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  3. Jul 21, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Front Cap Shims?

    I ain't got no 'stinkin Front Cap Shims !?!

    All I got is a fiber gasket & thats all the FSM shows too-

    Nor any mention of them in Mr. Stivers's D18 rebuild guide.

    Is the front shim a D20 thing or a change to the later 18s ?

    Enquiring Minds Want To Know-


    H.
     
  4. Jul 21, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    I think Thad meant the rear output cap
    those are where the shims are
    rear output shims in his pic
     
  5. Jul 21, 2006
    64_CJ5

    64_CJ5 Build it not Buy It!!

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    Well I am in the boat as you, I changed the pan seal thinking that was were it was leaking, and it was kinda, but it now leaking like a seive at the rear output shaft. So that is what I am going to work on this weekend. So I wish you good luck, I hope it is easier then I think it will be or I will be drinking alot of :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :?
     
  6. Jul 21, 2006
    Glenn

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    Maybe he meant at the front of the rear driveshaft? :D
     
  7. Jul 21, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    :D
     
  8. Jul 21, 2006
    Old Bill

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    Yeah yeah yeah. Pick on the guy with heat stroke why dontcha.... :rofl: :D

    Yes, I meant rear.....in front of the parking brake. :D
     
  9. Jul 21, 2006
    tinker

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    The bottom bolt that goes into the t-case on the left side when looking from the rear is also a drain for the trans it needs sealant on the threads and head .You can remove the bolt and hold your thumb over the hole wile the wife puts sealant on it .
     
  10. Jul 22, 2006
    Glenn

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    Ummm, it's not really THE drain for the transmission but you're correct, oil will definitely run out of the hole. :D
     
  11. Jul 22, 2006
    64_CJ5

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    digidty damn r u all serious, I never put any sealant on the drain plug, and It looked like it was dripping thier, but I thought no freaking way it would leak thier.
     
  12. Jul 22, 2006
    jayhawkclint

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    I got the front output shaft seal put on this afternoon. The old one I took out had two thin rubber washers inbetween the t-case seal and the yoke. The new ones came with a thick felt pad. I didn't know how much to tighten the yoke nut. If I did it too tight, the felt pad compressed and stuck the yoke. If I did it too loose, there was slop in the yoke.

    Does anyone know the exact torque spec on the yoke nut with felt gasket installed?

    For now I have it tightened down until the felt just starts to rub. I can still turn the yoke freely in neutral. It doesn't seem to be leaking, but I don't want to chew up my new seal if I guessed wrong.
     
  13. Jul 22, 2006
    Glenn

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    I don't remember the spec but it has to be tight. You don't want it coming off. Just checked rebuild guide says 120 ft. lbs. torque.
     
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