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V6 + carb + ethanol

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by nyejos11, Feb 24, 2006.

  1. Feb 24, 2006
    nyejos11

    nyejos11 Member

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    Has anyone tried (or acomplished) modifying their carb to run on ethanol?


    Josh
     
  2. Feb 25, 2006
    targetduster

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    I am also interested. Could a guy set up a carb for E-85 and just swap carbs for the fuel flavor of the day or are engine mods needed (I doubt it) ?
     
  3. Feb 25, 2006
    nyejos11

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    I wondered that too. Someone also told me it is illegal to distill your own alcohol in the US. Is this true? It would seem ridiculous to make it illegal with all this talk of alternative fuel and the push towards it. Anyhow, If anyone has done this conversion let us know.

    Josh
     
  4. Feb 25, 2006
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    I would think you would need to open up the Jets a bunch since you have to flow more fuel to get the same amount of power. Also the seals I think might need to be changed to neopreen to survive the alcohol( at least with Methanol you have to) I don't know if you could just swap back and forth easily but if you can figure out a way by all means do it, do a write up and let us know.
     
  5. Feb 25, 2006
    vanguard

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    I thought ethanol was already mixed into gas, so why would you need to change the seals. I can understand adjusting the fuel air mixture, but would think the seals should be okay.
     
  6. Feb 25, 2006
    mb82

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    I am not sure if you would have to. Ethanol also is much nicer of an alcohol then Methanol so I don't even know if you would have to change seals if you were running strait ethanol.
     
  7. Feb 25, 2006
    zed

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    are you talking about straight ethanol, 10%, or 85%?

    i have avoided using the 10% cause i don't trust the gaskets, etc. on my 69 v6. i rebuilt the carb last summer.

    i also live in iowa home of ethanol, where it's heavily subsidized at the pumps. i ran it in once by accident with no ill effects but that was before i stripped, cleaned and rebuilt the carb. but i have always run straight reg 87 octane. about every two tanks i'll put in a couple of oz. of lead subsitute from gunk.
     
  8. Feb 25, 2006
    Mcruff

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    Technically Biodiesel is illegal. No road tax.
    Remember the government needs there percentage.:rofl:
     
  9. Feb 25, 2006
    sparky

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    FWIW, I never suffered ill effects in the '73 VW other than vapor lock, nothing in the '60 Pickup either when living in NE.
     
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    181jeep

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    of course it's illegal to distil alchohol, ever hear of "bootleggers"?? I'm sure it is legal with a permit though.

    JB
     
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    mb82

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    I thought it was legal as long as you don't sell it.
     
  12. Feb 25, 2006
    SandhillMike

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    It's not illegal to distill alchohol, just to sell it, afaik
     
  13. Feb 25, 2006
    Mcruff

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    Here is the basis for problems running ethanol in your engine, most of these are easily addressed. You'll just have to tune the jets and possibly change the excellerator pump.
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  14. Feb 25, 2006
    Aaron

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    zed

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    nice post mike.

    the float in my carb is a black plastic foam instead of the original brass. thus i'm not sure until i test it.

    ethanol is supposedly safer than methanol
     
  16. Feb 25, 2006
    73cj5

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    In NH if you have a alterntive fueled vehicle you pay road the taxes when you get it registered it instead of at the pumps. I'm sure the other states have the same thing. Or you could not tell them:twisted:
     
  17. Feb 25, 2006
    nyejos11

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    Fascinating responses. Thanks guys.

    Josh
     
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