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225 Operating Temp???

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by 1968CJ5, Jun 20, 2005.

  1. 1968CJ5

    1968CJ5 New Member

    I just bought a 1968 CJ5 with the Buick 225 and was wondering what the normal operating temperature should be. Since I have bought the Jeep I have replaced the instrument cluster so it now has a new temp guage and I have also bypassed the heater core. I started it up last night to see if it ran hot and the temp needle went to the end of the gauge within 5 minutes of driving it in my neighborhood. What are possibilites for the engine running so hot. The radiator is full of coolant.

    Thanks
     
  2. 67cj5

    67cj5 Member

    First take a qiuck look in the radiator, might be plugged up, Second thing I would do is check the thermostat, If you dont know the last time it was replaced , then I recommend replaing it just for your peace of mind. If it overheated that quickly then I suspect thermostat not opening. Good luck
     
  3. lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

    Does the rig have a body lift? Is the fan centered behind the radiator, or is half the fan below the radiator?
    Is there a fan shroud?

    I think a 180 tstat is normal for the 225. You can run a 190 IIRC... (search the forum for thermostat, etc)

    Have you allowed the rig to idle (starting from cold) with the rad cap off, to watch circulation if/when the tstat opens?
     
  4. 1968CJ5

    1968CJ5 New Member

    The radiator seems new and inside looks very clean. The Jeep does not have a body lift or a fan shroud. I have a thermalcouple also to check the temperature, anyone know what would be too hot...around 250??? Looks like I am gonna check the thermostat out. Thank you very much for the help and hopefully this works. I will keep you guys posted. Thanks a lot.
     
  5. zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

    mine runs right at the "good and green" bottom of my stock gauge even on 90* days here. it's a 180 therm. during winter it is pretty cold blooded but i didn't have it running most of the winter cause of the steering.
     
  6. 1968CJ5

    1968CJ5 New Member

    Ok so I played around with the Jeep. I noticed that within about 3 minutes of just idling the temp guage was showing between 80% and 90%, which seems way too fast. I unscrewed the radiator cap and observed the coolant and didn't see any movement at all. The top hose of the radiator was cold while the bottom was hot. I dipped a themalcouple in the fluid at the top of the radiator and it was not hot at all, room temp basically. I am assuming that the coolant is pushed through the thermostat to the top hose of the radiator and then it is cooled and then leaves the radiator at the bottom tube? Am I Right?? So it looks like my themostat would be bad then? Just wanted to get your guys' opinion again as I am just a newbie and trying to learn.
     
  7. Roboter

    Roboter Klaatu Barada Jeepto

    Sounds like a stuck thermostat to me...

    How many of you run without a fan shroud btw?
     
  8. 66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

    no shroud, just the po's rubber flaps on the side of the rad.
     
  9. zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

    shroud
     
  10. $ sink

    $ sink Gazillians of posts

    no shroud, no overheat
     
  11. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    Shroud you gotta be kiddin, the only early cj5 I have ever seen with a factory shroud was Patricks at Tellico this year, heck his cowl is totally different then my 71 model.
     
  12. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    MOP has an original fiberglass one too.
     
  13. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    He should start making copy's to sell.;)
     
  14. jd7

    jd7 Sponsor

    Wasn't there someone selling copies of that shroud on ebay a while back?
     
  15. zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

    i've got the orig. fiberglass shroud on my 69. a littl chunk is missing where the po tried to route his version of power steering tho.
     
  16. Bob

    Bob Member

    I'd be in line to buy one!;)
     
  17. 1968CJ5

    1968CJ5 New Member

    Does anyone know what could cause the thermostat to be stuck in a closed position?? I can't figure it out.

    Put a new thermostat in today. Gonna check it out and see if it works tomorrow. What could be other posibilities, a bad water pump, blockages...???

    Thanks again for all the help.
     
  18. Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

    What's a 'shroud' ;)

    Never had one - run fine here.

    If you have swapped the Tstat and it don't cool (check to make sure it works by boiling it and see it open) - check the water pump and possible blocked passages. If it heats up that fast I would back flush it no matter what.
     
  19. ocnorb

    ocnorb New Member

    I've seen a 225 that always ran hot baffle alot of pros... turns out the PO had installed an even fire HEI-- The 3 cylinders that were firing at the wrong time caused that bank to overheat quickly.

    Just an idea I thought I'd throw out there.
     
  20. MOP

    MOP Active Member


    Sure...out of plaster of Paris ;).