Removal Of Pto Unit

I have a Ramsey PTO winch on my CJ5 which I need to remove temporarily in order to clean up and repaint the winch, frame horns, and bumper. This is the only Jeep I have owned with the PTO so this is new ground for me.

I have searched for but have not found adequate information about how the PTO unit is attached to the transfer case. Of course I see the bolts, but don't know if there is any thing attached internally to the transfer case gear.

I have seen plenty of pictures of the shifter and cone, or whatever it is called, that the fork moves forward to engage the gear, but don't know what it is engaging.

Probably overthinking this, but thought it couldn't hurt to ask here if there is anything I need to be aware of.

 

Your overthinking this one. The PTO just plain bolts right on the back of the case. The only minor inconvienience is you may have to remove the shift lever to slide it out. Most likely, just remove the 5 bolts and pivot it a bit to the rear to clear the engagement collar, then slide the unit down to clear the shifter from the floor.
Have a coverplate ready to button up the opening.
-Donny

 

Good news. I would just leave it on and remove only the winch, but there doesn't seem to be enough lateral room to move the winch forward enough to get the universal joints off the shaft.

 

Different than a Koenig PTO then?

Koenig, there are pipe plugs to remove, then the bolts are internal, and an allen-key tool is needed. Great care must be taken not to drop them inside the PTO case.

If the PTO shaft is two-piece, you may be able to remove the central hanger and "fold" the shaft enough to disengage one end.

Another trick that has helped me is loosening all the set screws, so the shafts can slide deeper into their UJ's and shorten everything a little more.

 

It is a Ramsey dual output PTO with external bolts on the flange. It is a one piece shaft.

I haven't started on removal of anything yet. It doesn't look like there is enough room to remove the shaft without removing the PTO unit, but I certainly am going to try loosening both U joint set screws and see if it will move enough to disconnect the shaft before I remove the unit. I would prefer to be able to do it that way and just lift the winch out of the way.

 

So you remove the five pipe plugs and the there are allen bolts inside that bolt the PTO to the TC?
One other clarification. Can you just remove the PTO drive shaft bolt to separate the shaft from the U-joint? I would like to then just slide everything out. I’m adding an overdrive onto the TC. Thanks in advance.

 

A definite maybe. If the front PTO shaft is two piece, you may find that dropping the center bearing will allow the shaft to "fold" enough to free it before the case is removed.

 

Here is Koenig bulletin that may be of some help.

http://www.hdts.vcn.com/JEEP/KoenigBulletin555.pdf

Mike

 

It should be set up to be able to remove the winch without getting involved with the PTO. If the keyway in the shaft(s) is long enough, you can take a soft drift and tap the u-joint yoke rearward at the winch (after loosening the set screw). It's only engaged on the winch input shaft about 1-1/4". Depending on how frozen the parts are to each other, a pry bar and maybe vice grips on the drive shaft might come into play.