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frame painting gaff

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Hippo393, Apr 8, 2005.

  1. Apr 8, 2005
    Hippo393

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    Whoops, the '71 frame has a coat of Rustoleum's rusty-metal primer on it now. Problem is that it went on a freshly-sandblasted frame, so I should have used clean-metal primer, right? :oops: Is it really that big of a deal now? Do I have anything to worry about?

    The topcoat will be Rustoleum's oil-based enamel. I planned on brushing a coat of it on here today or tomorrow. Should I mix in a hardener additive? Why or why not? I don't want the frame paint to be soft.

    Finally, anybody use a clear coat on top of the color coat? I thought about using a couple rattle cans of clearcote after the black topcote dries.
     
  2. Apr 8, 2005
    53Flattie

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    I've always just used regular Rustoleum primer on bare metal. I'm sure there are arguments for metal-etching primer, but the regular stuff has always worked well for me.

    YMMV
     
  3. Apr 8, 2005
    maxx

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    You will be fine. I would have used the red-oxide primer myself. Clean metal primer is for clean, fresh metal. Even though you removed the old rust, it is still there microscopically. The most beneficial ingredient in Rustoleum red oxide primer is fish oil. :shock: and it works great.
     
  4. Apr 8, 2005
    jd7

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    Bet your OK with the primer but careful of the clearcoating not all are compatable and will will leave you a lovely wrinkle effect.
     
  5. Apr 8, 2005
    beeser

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    A metal etching primer and sandblasting seems redundant.
     
  6. Apr 8, 2005
    Old Bill

    Old Bill Aggressively passive....

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    Actually, it was what I was told to do with some rusty areas of my tub.
    The main part of the rust is gone, and the etching primer converts whats left into an oxide.

    But then, I'm paranoid and didn't want to have to deal with rust again....
     
  7. Apr 8, 2005
    Hippo393

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    Thanks for the reassurance. The Rustoleum Rusty-metal primer is reddish in color. I have no idea what "self-etching" means, but it doesn't say it anywhere on the can. (reaching for dictionary...)
    jd7--thanks for the clearcote warning. What should I use then?

    Anybody want to take a stab on the hardener question? Thanks for all the responses. :beer:
     
  8. Apr 8, 2005
    JIM.J.

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    look up rustoleums web site. they can answer all you questions. it's a very good website.
     
  9. Apr 8, 2005
    jd7

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    I'd be more apt to put hardner in the covercoat. Using synthetic enamal? should be able to buy suitable hardner where you bought your covercoat.I went back and checked your using rustoleum did they have an enamal hardner there I've bought it at tractor supply and used it worked fine. Just follw the directions you'll be ok.
     
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