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New Guy With Old CJ5 And Nothing Makes Sense!

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by TechTchr, Oct 25, 2017.

  1. Karl Childers

    Karl Childers Member

    I am getting ready to replace my steering wheel and like the school bus idea, what makes and what years should I be looking for? Any NOS source for them?
     
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  2. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

  3. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    There may not be a lot of tummy room between those seats & a stock wheel, that's probably why the smaller wheel is in there.
     
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  4. TechTchr

    TechTchr New Member

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  5. TechTchr

    TechTchr New Member

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    Here is a closeup of the shifters.
    And my belly rubs the little wheel now, definitely wont fit behind a bigger one unless I move the seat to the back!
     
  6. TechTchr

    TechTchr New Member


    Exactly, I’m a full figured guy!
     
  7. TechTchr

    TechTchr New Member

    I think you’re exactly correct, the knuckle looks like it is rotated around too much and it appears that thay are pitched outward due to the downward rotation of the axle.
     
  8. TechTchr

    TechTchr New Member

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    Here you go, cant find id on either side of the tranny.

     
  9. TechTchr

    TechTchr New Member


    The springs, although a little rusty, still have stickers with part numbers on them. I have receipts dated 2008 for most of the work done so they are pretty new. But the steering components have way too much wiggle in them. The belcrank and pin it sits on both have a ton of slop, also the drag link and the steering sector.

    So I think replacing most of it and rebuilding the box will tighten things up alot.
     
  10. TIm E

    TIm E Aggressively average

    Your new buddy Pete Debella has NOS steering wheels, but they are listed as POR (price on request). Gonna guess that means expensive. If you aren't too hung up on having the original "Sheller" name on it, a reproduction wheel for the appropriate year should work...though I do recall some mention of spline/fitment issues.

    Maybe best to check with Pete or Carl Walck for replacements.
     
  11. Bowbender

    Bowbender I'm workin' on it!

    Welcome aboard! I'm going to have a Ross steering system for sale soon.
     
  12. Tom_Hartz

    Tom_Hartz Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I have extended shackles on my CJ so I added 6 degrees positive caster and she tracks straight as an arrow.
     
  13. Karl Childers

    Karl Childers Member

    I guess I misunderstood, I thought people were literally swapping on steering wheels from school buses because they were larger in dia. than the Jeep wheel and gave more leverage than even the large Jeep steering wheel. My bad. :confused: When the time comes I'll talk with the usual suspects for a new one. It does not need to be NOS as long as it is a quality piece. Mine works for now but is ugly as sin as quite a bit of plastic is gone off it.
     
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  14. CJ Joe

    CJ Joe Truckhaven Tough!

    Welcome from San Diego. Aside from all these other discussions I can offer some low-tech, cheap advice. I notice in your first picture, the hood is down and the latches are not secure. You'll want to break that bad habit real quick or you'll be looking for a new hood, windshield and undershorts. :)
     
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  15. Muzikp

    Muzikp Active Member

    You have cup holders and a radio, Jeep is Mint! Seriously it looks in pretty good shape. Definitely a Dana 44 rear axle. Not sure on the tranny, I have a Muncie so not that familiar with what the T-86's look like.
     
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  16. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    Ok. So the trans is most likely a t-86. The ID embossment will be on the driver's side, above the fill plug. The case is visually similar to t-90, but the bend in that shifter is a big clue. This trans matches the date of the engine, putting the drivetrain at '66. The radiator and grill appear to be an early v-6 model also, so let's say that's '66 too.

    The fenders are '70-'71, and the windshield is '70-'75.

    The title and the tub might be all that's originally left of the '63.

    I'd be willing to bet the axles are also from the '66, with the front being a D27 and the rear having 2-piece axles.

    The motor mounts and any remnants of a frame-mounted battery tray would be big clues to if the frame (and steering box) is from '63 or '66. If the motor mounts look factory, I'd bet the frame is '66 also.
     
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  17. TechTchr

    TechTchr New Member


    Thanks, I’ll definitely keep it locked down when I start driving it, it’s too squirrelly to drive on the road now so I want to fix the steering first.