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Different Timing For Different Distributers

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by ThePhantom, Jul 30, 2016.

  1. Jul 30, 2016
    ThePhantom

    ThePhantom Member

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    I set the timing on my 1969 F4 and noticed the FSM lists two choices (5 BTDC or 0 TDC) depending on the distributer. Mine is the Prestolite IAY-4401A, which shows 0TDC for timing. The FSM also lists a different idle speed. Any thoughts on why they would be different? It was at 5BTDC and I set it at 0TDC and don't notice any difference in running or starting. I do not have the exhaust emissions controls, if that helps.
    Thanks!
     
  2. Jul 30, 2016
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    I believe the FSM mentions 0 BTDC for the emissions. Since yours doesn't have them it shouldn't hurt anything to be at 5 BTDC.
     
  3. Jul 31, 2016
    jeepcj

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    Distributers have a build in set amount of centrifugal advance, some are higher than others, if yours has a lot and you set your initial timing too high you will be over advanced in the upper rpms. I agree with glen though, you should be fine. if you notice any pinging cruising, I would reduce the initial setting until its gone.
     
  4. Jul 31, 2016
    PeteL

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    Did emissions requirements begin as early as '69?
    I recall them being a PITA in the '70s, but I don't remember when they started.
     
  5. Jul 31, 2016
    CJ Joe

    CJ Joe Truckhaven Tough!

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    I know they were in California. Had a 1969 Toyota truck with a smog pump (air injection).
     
  6. Jul 31, 2016
    Glenn

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    Yep, they had an air pump.
     
  7. Jul 31, 2016
    Glenn

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    69 Cj5 V6 Reference this for air pump comments.
     
  8. Jul 31, 2016
    jeep2003

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    my guess is one has vacumme advance and one doesnt. Or if both listings are for 69 then maybe emmisions for california or something like that
     
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    eti engineer

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    In that era most cars had at least an air pump with a manifold bypass valve, which if it didn't work could create some hellacious backfiring, an EGR valve and of course PCV systems.
     
  10. Jul 31, 2016
    ThePhantom

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    I never had problems with it at 5BTDC, so I think I'll switch it back.
    Thanks everyone!
     
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