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Gear oil- GL4/GL5

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Howard Eisenhauer, Oct 27, 2012.

  1. Nov 7, 2012
    1955CJ-5

    1955CJ-5 Member

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    I'll keep trying...it's become a quest....

    Thanks for the suggestions..lots of farm implement dealers around here, and NAPA is not far away either....

    EDIT: The nearest NAPA store shows it in stock on their web site. I'll go tomorrow....
     
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  2. Nov 8, 2012
    1955CJ-5

    1955CJ-5 Member

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    Napa had it....I feel like I've found the grail or something.

    It says that it is non-corrosive to non-ferrous metals like brass and copper....just as advertised...$40 a gallon!

    Randy
     
  3. Nov 14, 2012
    DrDanteIII

    DrDanteIII Master Procrastinator

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    I noticed much smoother shifting from my t15 with gl4 than gl5. Easier shifting with the t-case also. Even with identical viscosities. I've also used BG syncroshift synthetic with great results.

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2
     
  4. Nov 14, 2012
    1955CJ-5

    1955CJ-5 Member

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    BG?

    I probably won't get mine changed until it warms up a bit.....about April.....
     
  5. Nov 14, 2012
    colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

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    Normally I'm not a big fan of additives (snake oil) but I have used BG MGC in the past with good results.

    http://www.bgprod.com/products/driveline.html
     
  6. Nov 14, 2012
    1955CJ-5

    1955CJ-5 Member

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  7. Nov 14, 2012
    Steve's 70-5

    Steve's 70-5 Active Member

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    Love BG. Use BG MOA in my truck and will use it in the car after a few miles.
     
  8. Jan 12, 2013
    subsonic

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  9. Jan 13, 2013
    givemethewillys

    givemethewillys Been here since sparky ran it. 2022 Sponsor

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    I have a gallon of that Ford transmission oil. If I remember correctly it was very inexpensive. I never used it on the Jeep because I was afraid the GL1 might mess something up. What exactly is the difference between a GL1 and GL4 oil?
     
  10. Jan 13, 2013
    45 Fan

    45 Fan New Member

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    The Copper Strip Tarnish Test (ASTM D130-10) is a standard test of a lubricant to indicate how corrosive it may be to copper alloys in a transmission (like bronze bushings). Whether it's GL4 or GL5 is not really a reliable way to tell.
    Below is a partial ratings list I found by googling. A "1A" rating is great, while "4B" is really bad.

    Amsoil Long Life FGR 75W-90 GL5 1B Dark Orange
    Amsoil Severe Gr SVG 75W-90 GL5 1B Dark Orange
    Amsoil M/T Fluid MTF..5W-30.....1A Light Orange
    Amsoil MT & Gear MTG 75W-90 GL4 1B Dark Orange
    Castrol Hypoy C......80W-90 GL5 1B Dark Orange
    Castrol SYNTEC.......75W-90 GL5 1B Dark Orange
    Citgo Citgear Std XD 75W-90 GL4 1B Dark Orange
    Delo Gear Lubric ESI 80W-90 GL5 2A Claret Red
    Delo Trans Fluid ESI 50W........2A Claret Red
    GM Synthetic Axle....75W-90 GL5 1B Dark Orange
    Lucas 75/90 Synthetic75W-90 GL5 4B Graphite Blk
    Mobil 1 Synthetic....75W-90 GL5 1B Dark Orange
    Mopar Synthetic
    w/Mopar LS additive..75W-90 GL5 4A Trans Black
    Pennzoil Gearplus....80W-90 GL5 1B Dark Orange
    Pennzoil Synthetic...75W-90 GL5 1B Dark Orange
    Red Line MT-90.......75W-90 GL4 1A Light Orange
    Red Line NS Gear Oil 75W-90 GL5 1B Dark Orange
    Red Line 75W90 GL-5..75W-90 GL5 1B Dark Orange
    Royal Purple MaxGear 75W-90 GL5 4A Trans Black
    Torco SGO Synthetic
    w/Torco Type G LS....75W-90 GL5 1B Dark Orange
    Valvoline High Perf..80W-90 GL5 1B Dark Orange
    Valvoline SynPower...75W-90 GL5 1B Dark Orange
     
  11. Jan 13, 2013
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Well, I guess that answers my question!:shock:

    Thanks for the info :)

    H.
     
  12. May 4, 2015
    eti engineer

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    Enjoyed the humor with the comments, especially living in Calif., where we have all those thingies you spoke of... I will look around. We have a NAPA store and they seem to cater more to my needs than your typical automotive store run with a bunch of teens who wouldn't know a muscle engine if it hit them in the head. Thanks...
     
  13. May 5, 2015
    4xfun

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  14. May 6, 2015
    Greevesman

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    I just rebuilt all my gearboxes and OD so was interested in this discussion. Found Sta Lube GL3/GL4 campatible oil at my local speed shop. Says it is compatible with all brass metal. California is difficult to find anything that is not mainstream.
     
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  15. May 8, 2015
    Wenaha

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    I am using Redline MT90...

    Red Line MT-90.......75W-90 GL4 1A Light Orange
     
  16. May 8, 2015
    kamel

    kamel Senior Curmudgeon

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    I bought some gl4 a while back and used it. GL4 isn't available at FLAPS. GL4/5 is available, but it is the qualities of the "5" part that can cause brass problems

    Brad Penn oil is what sticks in my mind -- I'm 200 miles from the shop at present, but I'm 98.77542901 % sure it was Brad Penn oil.
     
  17. May 9, 2015
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    FYI I ended up going with Amsoil.

    H.
     
  18. Feb 9, 2016
    WestCoastPat

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    What does FLAPS mean? I see it often around here and assume it is a parts supplier but I am not sure. Thanks. WCP
     
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    SFaulken

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    Friendly Local Auto Parts Store.
     
  20. Feb 9, 2016
    nickmil

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    It's not just about the oil attacking the copper alloys although that is important. It's also about the lubricity and friction properties of the additives in the oil. Many GL-5 rated oils have different characteristics in these areas creating shifting and wear issues.
     
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