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Battery drain?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by chuckdiesel, Dec 14, 2013.

  1. Dec 17, 2013
    chuckdiesel

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    I took the alt wire off the positive terminal, then touched the test light to the neg cable (off) and the neg battery terminal; no light!!! I removed the alternator and took it to be tested. Failed every test. PO had only wired the red plug wire back to the back of the alternator and left the white wire taped up and connected to nothing. I installed the new unit and ran the white wire to the pole on the coil where my electric fuel pump is connected. Put the test lamp on like before and it lit up. Still draining! I cranked her up to check the belt tension and alignment, ran great! Turned the key to off and it just kept running! I disconnected the coil wire to shut it down. Surely these are seperate issues. I need all the advice I can get. Thanks
     
  2. Dec 17, 2013
    1960willyscj5

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    what pole of the coil are you connecting the fuel pump to?

    That very well could be your battery drain.

    And check wiring diagrams for that alternator.

    Take the white wire back off of the coil terminal. That is probably what caused the engine to continue running.
     
  3. Dec 17, 2013
    chuckdiesel

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    I believe the white should be connected to a power source that is only live when the key is in the on position. Suggestions?
     
  4. Dec 18, 2013
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    Middlefork Miner

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    Sounds like you have the ignition switch wired up wrong...or it could be you still have the alternator wired wrong...

    ETA...a closeup pic of the rear of your alternator & another of your alternator to battery wiring might help...
     
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  6. Dec 18, 2013
    timgr

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    Another way to deal with back-feeding is to connect terminal 1 (the white wire) to the ignition switch through a light bulb (the alternator light). The coil is still connected to the alternator through the ignition switch terminal, but the resistance of the bulb is enough to block the self-generated power from the alternator from back-feeding.

    Jeep uses a resistance wire.
     
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    What alternator are you using. Autolite/prestolite, Delco etc. Are you using the little speedo cluster indicator light (gen/alt/chg), or volt/amp meter? All this helps to troubleshoot the problem.
     
  8. Dec 18, 2013
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    From the description and since it likely did not come with the Jeep, I was guessing it's a Delco 10SI. But maybe not.
     
  9. Dec 18, 2013
    Middlefork Miner

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    It's a logical assumption & I've been thinking along the same line...a lot of these problems could be avoided if the people who swap the old externally regulated models to the 10SI would just put the correct connector on.

    I think a pic or two might solve his problem.
     
  10. Dec 18, 2013
    1960willyscj5

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  11. Dec 18, 2013
    chuckdiesel

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    New development! I ran the white wire straight to the "on" terminal of the ignition. The jeep will now turn off when the ignition is in the off position; however now my test light shows a drain whether the alt wire is connected to the battery or not. The red wire is connected to the rear terminal on the alt and the directions say run a wire from that terminal to an ammeter or junction box. I don't have an ammeter and am not really sure about what or where a junction box is. I would like to put up a pic of the back of the alt but I'm not very good with computers or alternators! LOL. I really appreciate everyone's help and patience. Thanks
     
  12. Dec 18, 2013
    Middlefork Miner

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    What kind of alternator do you have? If it's a Delco, are the spade terminals orientated in the same position or is one vertical & the other horizontal?
     
  13. Dec 18, 2013
    chuckdiesel

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    I replaced the 3 wire alt with a single terminal model. I checked every wire under the hood an can't find anything wrong. Even with the new unit I still only get the drain when the wire from the alt to the battery is connected. I am going to turn my attention to under the dash. A wire comes from the alt to my light switch. Not sure what I'm looking for. Thanks again
     
  14. Dec 18, 2013
    nickmil

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    Something is not clear here. You said you replaced the alternator with a one wire unit but then say you have a wire going to the battery and one to the ignition switch?


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  15. Dec 18, 2013
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    chuckdiesel

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    One terminal unit. Thx
     
  18. Dec 18, 2013
    chuckdiesel

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    Yes 1960cj5 thanks
     
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    But you also said you have a wire going to your ignition switch from the alternator. Can you elaborate?


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  20. Dec 18, 2013
    Middlefork Miner

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    So you've got it sorted out right?
     
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