Saginaw on a Flattie

The best mount to use for a saginaw conversion is the mount that was used on a 69-70 jeepster. this mounts to the frame rail with 4 bolts and accepts either a 4 bolt power box or a 3 bolt manual box. I've never seen this mount mentioned on this forum. I just discovered this after seeing a weird looking mount on an old jeep. I asked the owner where that mount came from and he told me a jeepster. It's a sweet peice and works perfectly on the narrower, shorter frame rails of an old cj. the jeepster had the same dimension frame rail as the early cj's. it's a factory built bracket and works better than anything advanced adapters (or anyone else) sells. Here's one that just went on ebay with some pics.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...tem=7937172179&category=33589&sspagename=WDVW

 

true, the Jeepster bracket will work
but they are difficult to find (like hens teeth, and pricey when found)
my mount is a flat piece of plate, with pipe spacers
I had to clear a winch mount, so I had to build mine
if you don't have anything else in the way, the Jeepster mount will work
for any CJ

 

Wow! So that's the moount I have on mine. I was wondering what mine came off of. It is a pretty nice mount.

 

how about this one from a late 70's or early 80's wagoneer (i think)
it's cast also show upside down

 

That actually looks like a Wrangler box mount. The late Wagoneers didn't have a removable mount. The box mounted directly to the frame as the frame was modified in that area. The earlier Wagoneers did use a removable mount that works pretty well for Saginaw conversions. Do a search. Mcruff has a design that looks very good and he and some others have used with good success and I'm going to try it for a couple of projects also. His design is more compact than the Wagoneer mount. He has the design on here and you can't print it off. It has all the dimensions, etc. right on it. Nickmil.

 

yep, the wagoneer i took this off of had a notch
/hole in frame bottom for the pin you see on the right. i just can't remember the year it was.

 

lol you've seen the original mount the po did on 69 right? the scary one? with the unneeded frame cutout, and the 3 steel tabs with the 15 welds?

 

Flat plate and pipe like Jim here.

 

I was thinking full size wagoneer. Did you take that off of an XJ Wagoneer? The little Cherokee style?
Nickmil.

 

don't even remember but you're problably right. sometimes when i get into yard and start taking off jeep stuff it all goes dark ... then i wake up the next morning in my garage in a pile of parts, a breaker bar in my hand and a massive headache. (third level of jeepaholism, i guess) :twisted:

 

I fab'd up my own out of 3/8 inch plate. Unless I'm mistaken, you'll have to mount the box at an angle no matter which mount you use. That is, unless you use a two piece steering shaft. The angle from the fire wall down to the box requires a steep angle. I've never seen a CJ with the box mounted parrallel unless it had a two piece steering shaft.

 

I used the original staped sheet metal bracket with a homemade steering box brace. So far, it has held up to 36's on Humvee beadlocks, Waggy Dana 44, and a spool. The bell coupler blew at the input shaft, but so far the mount has held up fine.

As a side note, don't buy one of those steering box braces that clamp just above the sector shaft and brace to the opposite frame rail. Instead, use the connecting rod off a V8 engine (not sure how many different ones will work, but I used one from a 340 Mopar). Worked PERFECT and didn't cost me a thing.

If you need pics, let me know.

 

Nickmil.