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T-19 transmission will it work?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by fdpwr2a, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. Sep 4, 2012
    fdpwr2a

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    If I find a t-19 transmission will it fit onto a BOP bell housing? I see that if I find one out of a scout it will have the wrong size input shaft. What other transmission input shaft can I swap to make it work. I need it to fit a D-20 transfer to go on the back so most of the scout t-19 had a D-20 on the back. Thanks for the info. fdpwr2a
     
  2. Sep 4, 2012
    nickmil

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    The scout T-19 has the wrong case bolt pattern, input shaft, front bearing retainer, and most were 4.02-1, not the 6.32-1 most people want. No, you can't use the T-19 mainshaft in a T-18. The adapter is different as well.
    The Scout T-19 used a narrow front bolt pattern with studs. No ears on the case for mounting.


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  3. Sep 5, 2012
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    So what is the best t-19 to get? Some of them I have found out is you can drill the back of the case to fit the plate to fit the D-20 on the back. Is the one for the ford the best one to find as for the input working? Thanks for the info fdpwr2a
     
  4. Sep 5, 2012
    nickmil

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    Yes, Ford is the most friendly for adapting. The issue though is the transmission mount. The Scout has the transmission mount as part of the case. The Ford has the mount as part of the tail housing. So if you use the Ford case which is what you need for bellhousing bolt up and use the Scout adapter you have no tranny mount provision. You might be able to weld a mount to the adapter but I don't recommend this as its a high stress area.
    Basically if you are stuck on a T-19 you need a Ford unit then an aftermarket adapter. AA, Novak make them. R&P makes them from steel. If you can get the Scout version cheap enough it could save you money on the mainshaft you need.
    Also be aware there are 3 different 1st gear ratios for the Ford T-19. 4.02-1, 5-1, and 6.32-1. Afaik Scouts were either 4.02-1 or 6.32-1 with 4.02-1 being by far the most common.
    Why not use a T-18? Much more common both for parts and the 6.32-1 first gear. Plus one can be assembled using mostly factory parts.


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  5. Sep 5, 2012
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    Yes I was aware of the different first gear ratios. I thought the synchronized first gear would be nice. I was also thinking of the t-18 or t-98 with the low first gear as they were in jeeps and the D-20 was on the back of them. Looks like I will keep a lookout for one of these with the short input shaft and I can get everything to bolt up. Thanks for the info fdpwr2a
     
  6. Sep 5, 2012
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    If you're going for the 6.32-1 the synchronized version is almost useless as you still have to be moving so slow to utilize it. It works well with diesels. It not so much with gas. I'd try and find a Jeep pu/Wagoneer version and swap the input and front bearing retainer. Path of least resistance.


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  7. Sep 6, 2012
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    Thanks for all the info that clears alot up for me!! fdpwr2a
     
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