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Dead battery...

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Patrick, Nov 12, 2005.

  1. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    A couple months ago, I went out to start the Jeep to go to work, and the battery was dead.... I mean DEAD.. Jump started the Jeep, drove to work, and it's been fine..... This afternoon, I went to start the Jeep, and the battery was dead again.... I mean DEAD.... Jumped it with the Lumina, went over to Dad's, put it on the charger for an hour; the battery is still not up to par....... I'm not sure what's going on.. There is no drain ( I'll check as soon as I can find my @%^%$ test light....) Maybe I shouldn't let the Jeep sit for a day and a half.....
     
  2. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Bad battery? If no drain, ?
     
  3. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    Yeah, but it's fine other than these two times.... Seems like I've seen it all, being an automotive tech... If a customer brought me a vehicle with these symptoms, I'd think they were crazy...:D
     
  4. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    My truck likes to mess with me. Over the years I've had it all of the sudden not start numerous times because of a faulty ground.
     
  5. Uncle Jeep

    Uncle Jeep Snow in the desert??

    Good luck Patrick. I went through this same stuff with my '63 chevy P/U. I actually carried a second battery with me just to jump the truck. It seemed that my Crane box and my stock alternator didn't like one another.
     
  6. CT

    CT Member

    Before you try to check out the whole wiring system and rewire the jeep to find the problem. Do something simple like putting another good (or better yet a new) battery on it. Clean your battery cables at both ends.
     
  7. coby61

    coby61 Stupidiotic Member

    Patrick, sounds like a faulty ground to me. Each time this has happend did you hit any bumps in the road or go wheelin? A friend had this problem a while back he woulld go wheelin and knock some thing loose and it would drain the batt.
     
  8. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    Battery terminals are clean, tight, etc. Trust me, I keep my stuff in good shape..... Fixin' to go out now and see if it's dead again..... I'll bet it's fine..

    edit... yup, it's fine this morning...
     
  9. rocnrol

    rocnrol Member

    do you have the "normal" type of battery patrick? its not like an optima type is it? what i am getting at, is if it is a lead plate type, i wonder it one or two of the plates are a little dameged from vibration, and then they end up touching one another now and again.
     
  10. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    It's just an Auto Zone Dura Last..:oops:..
     
  11. tgregg

    tgregg Member

    Have you load tested it, could be bad cells. If I remember correctly, Autozone will test your battery and if it is bad will replace it. Might help to at least elliminate that as a problem.
     
  12. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    I'll load test it at work...... It'll test fine, I'm sure..... I suspect something else is draining the battery, besides the normal parasitic load.....
     
  13. Old Bill

    Old Bill Aggressively passive....

    Patrick, Nothing you haven't seen before, but just maybe not....

    I had a '64 Chebby 1/2 ton that we spent the better part of 2 weeks figgerin' out why the thing would sometimes start, sometimes not, it would stall just going down the road, all kinds of goofy stuff. We finally replaced the battery after checking (and re-re-re-checking) everything else. Seem to remember Dad thinking it was a couple cells shorting out inside the battery.
     
  14. Uncle Jeep

    Uncle Jeep Snow in the desert??

    Are you running anything electronic?(MSD box, fan, fuel pump, amps, etc..) Like I posted earlier, I ran into the same problem with my truck. The battery might be fine but your charging system could be in trouble or just not strong enough to keep up with the demand. My truck would run fine and the next day the battery would be dead.
     
  15. Desert Runner

    Desert Runner Member 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I found I have a small drain in my Jeep. After beating my brains out trying to find it, I installed a battery disconnect. Now when I park it for more than a day, I pop the hood and flip the switch. I havn't had the battery go dead for over a year.:rofl:

    jay
     
  16. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    No, nothing like MSD, fuel pumps, etc. My charging system is fine; I run a 100 amp single wire delco..... This has happened twice in the last 6 months........ This is why it is a mystery to me... My alternator is good; my battery terminals are good......The only load on the battery is the memory for the CD player... I know all of the basics..... I hate to be short, but I diagnose things of this nature for a living...... This has me over a barrel, however...
     
  17. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    That's the problem with doing it for a living and working on your own vehicle. On a customers vehicle you're gonna have already checked what was mentioned, but you "know" you're own vehicle so you might tend to rule things out automatically and overlook the problem. ;)
     
  18. CT

    CT Member

    I wonder if maybe you might have a faulty switch. Perhaps the ignition switch might be covered on the backside with some light grit or grime from the positive terminal tab that also touches the outside of switch housing. If so, it could allow a small amount of positive voltage current to ground out when the weather was real humid. Not sure if this makes since, just a thought out of the blue. Take a mirror, get on the floorboard and look at the backside of your electrical switches. Don’t forget the horn button. Might be time to remove the rubber cover and get some Emory cloth and just clean up the brass contacts a bit.
     
  19. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    I understand what you're saying Glenn, but trust me, I know My Jeep and have already checked the obvious... I do every time I go on a long trail ride........:v6:
     
  20. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member