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Different Front Fenders

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by sfrans, Jul 28, 2019.

  1. sfrans

    sfrans AAGG

    I picked up an early CJ5. No title, no history. MN and SN on VIN point to a 66 CJ5a. Hood is definitely M38a1. Grill has large turn signals. Neither are stock 66. Question is front fenders. The roll on the front is much shorter. Barely rolls. They are not bobbed as they have the edge trim bump out and roll under the same as a regular fender. Any ideas what the fenders and grill are from? upload_2019-7-27_21-22-1.jpeg upload_2019-7-27_21-21-5.jpeg
     
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  2. Jw60

    Jw60 That guy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    To me it looks like a bob followed with a bead roller. the passenger side view looks like the heavy factory stamp starts to curve down then they used a bead roller to continue it over and make it a finished edge, the tooling and process make the radius different. It's good to see the professionalism.
     
  3. colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

    Is that an indentation for a side marker light on the left rear? That would make it newer than '66.
     
  4. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Can you post a picture of the dash? That might help for identification.
     
  5. 45es

    45es Active Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I have seen a number of jeeps that have had fenders that look like these. I don't know if it was a popular modification or if there was a source that sold the modified fenders.
     
  6. FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

    Tomtom made some bobbed fenders sort of like that trying to maintain some of the original lines - guessing they are homemade but done with some attention to detail. As said above, the large front marker lights with clear lenses suggest and rear marker light on driver side suggest later than 66...wonder what rear axle it has...
     
  7. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Is it something about the picture or is the driver's side fender different than the passenger side? Looks flat to me, no lip on the horizontal part.
     
  8. Focker

    Focker That's a terrible idea...What time? Staff Member

    I see what you mean by looking at just one picture...But if you look at both pictures you can see they look the same
     
  9. homersdog

    homersdog Tulsa, Ok 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    It's the elusive long lost CJ4 prototype! Wow talk about rare!
    :D
     
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  10. Jrobz23

    Jrobz23 Member

    Def cut fenders

    Body doesn’t look half bad. Nice score.
     
  11. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    Front fenders are modified by a Bubba, with the right side being mostly original metal, just bobbed and reshaped. The grill looks to be '69-up, but would need the see the portion under the hood.
    Why do you think that is an M38a1 hood? Also, if you post up the serial number, we could likely at least tell you what you have. The CJ5a models have a separate range of serial numbers apart from CJ5's.
    That left rear marker light recess makes this look like a '70 or '71. Is the rear axle flanged?
    -Donny
     
  12. sterlclan

    sterlclan Member 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I have the matching drivers side rear rim. Wish I had three more viva los 70s.
     
  13. 45es

    45es Active Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I don't know if bubba did these ender mods or not but as I said earlier, I have seen several. Here is a Jeep that was for sale locally a couple of years ago as an example. The work was done very well.
     
  14. Jrobz23

    Jrobz23 Member

    Bubba can surprise at times.

    Also the hood looks just like my ‘57.
     
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2019
  15. Mike C

    Mike C Member

    Only difference on the A1 hood is the shovel mount on the inside. Other than that, identical to the CJ hood. But that mount is a nice mod if you want to have a shovel on board!
     
  16. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    I know that, and have both CJ and A-1 versions. I was curious if the OP thought his was an A-1 because it had a fording cover ( missing).
    -Donny
     
  17. sfrans

    sfrans AAGG

    Here's a couple shots of the fenders. They do need some love. Whoever did them originally did a good job. Next question is the motor. It's a V8. No idea what manufacturer. I'm assuming GM. Bellhousing bolts directly to T86. To me the motor is scrap.
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  18. Jrobz23

    Jrobz23 Member

    Breather post and front snout look amc. Sure that isn’t a T14?
     
  19. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    why? doesnt run?

    what are your intentions if you say the motor is junk? do you have a different driveline lined up?
     
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  20. sfrans

    sfrans AAGG

    I've got an odd fire 231 that needs a rebuild that I'd put in it. Original V6 mounts are still in place. They never completed the install. I think the motor may be seized. No idea how long its been sitting. Last licensed in 1985. I haven't had time to put a wrench to it. Busy getting things done around the house. Both knees getting replaced Aug 14