Ramsey Winch Question

This winch is fairly close by to a picknpull I frequent whenever off island. It looks like the driveshaft is coming in from the passenger side- maybe it was off a truck with a 4-speed PTO port on that side.

Anyhow, the question is- can the ends of a Ramsey winch (model 8000) be reversed to allow a driver side driveshaft off a typical Ramsey PTO on the Dana 18? I just went out and checked my low slung Koenig 100 winch and it sure appears to be designed to reverse the ends. Just wasn't sure with the Ramsey.

I'll try putting up a pic or link to the craigslist ad. I haven't tried it before. Hey, it worked. You can see the driveshaft on the left end

 

Probably used on a Ford with a lefthand front output transfer case or pto on the left side. I've owned a few Koenig's like that. I don't know on the Ramsey's but the Koenig's have the gears cut reverse when used in a Ford application.

 

Oops! I meant to say in my earlier post a pto used on the right side of the transmission.

 

Then the PTO driveshaft would be turning counterclockwise, correct?

Something else: this winch should be spooling the cable in and out from the top of the drum- looks that way with that fairlead. Now, with the ends reversed and considering a CC rotation of the shaft, Ford gears would reverse that and spool out the bottom. Am I going in the right direction here?

 

you are correct

 

Thanks for the help!

 

Could that maybe be a rear mounted winch?

 

Just as a rear axle in the front would still go forward, a PTO winch would act the same.

You'd need to flip it upside down to reverse its direction.

 

Or you change the fairlead so it can become a top wind or a bottom wind winch as needed.. At least on a Konig that I tore apart, it seems like you can swap the ends around for a right or left hand side PYO input. The bearings in the input shaft are the same on both ends so I can't see it being an issue to the winch. About the only thing would be having to respool the cable on the drum.

 

Even if the spool ended up turning the wrong way you could pull in reverse... Wouldn't be good for pulling with the wheels spinning. i.e. both winch and transfer case engaged.

 

Don't turn it upside down. In many winches that would starve the gears of oil, I've been told.

I saw a PTO winch rear-mounted by flipping it, and the gears were ruined.

 

PeteL is probably right, and you should not turn it upside down, but if you flip it over it looks exactly like my Ramsey. On my CJ the PTO input is on the drivers side and the clutch handle is on the passenger side near the grill. But, even if flipping it over would not starve it of oil which it probably would, I still do not think it will work because it would put the PTO shaft toward the top of the winch and it will not attach to the drive shaft which runs under the bumper.

 

ok, It is a PTO driven winch. If you have the cable all the way out and go to pull something with the winch, does it make any difference which way the drive shaft turns? Won't it do a pull either direction?

I am asking this because that picture looks like you could bolt that whole thing to the rear of your jeep and pull things that way. And the driveshaft would be on the correct side for using it.

 

I haven't yet been able to get off island to check this winch out, but recently saw another ad for a 76 ford highboy frame with running gear. It had the same winch/fairlead/shaft etc running off a NP435 with a pass side PTO.
IOW, Nick probably had it right (except that he meant to say right side pto)
Might be a worthy parts winch at the right price

 

This is how it would mount to the rear of a CJ5 or M38A1: http://www.tantel.ca/Images/Ramsey/Ramsey Winch origional instal 1.JPG Foto by Howard Eisenhauer

 

When reversing a ramsey winch you would remove the worm gear and make it so it comes out the opposite side of the gear housing. I.E. out the front. then swap ends so the PTO is on the drivers side.

 

Interesting, I've never messed with a Ramsey but I know two people that have them. I have dug around in a Koenig and could see how the mounts can be swapped and how the worm gear could be mounted differently for LH or RH operation.

 

This is what I suspected all along, as the housing has provision for swapping the worm gear around to the opposite side. But with no past experience, it was just a guess. Looks like the Koenigs are designed the same way

 

I suppose if you are going to build a winch, you would design it to function in about any situation.