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yj Shifting issues

Discussion in 'Quitters' Club' started by heffleysmill, Jun 24, 2015.

  1. heffleysmill

    heffleysmill 7 Slot Hotshot

    I recently acquired a 94 4cyl 5sp yj Wrangler. The issue I was told from original owner is when starting it, it must be in gear or trans will not go into gear. Starting with transmission in gear, all is well, shifts fine and drives great with no clutch slippage. Once you put shifter in neutral and release the clutch, you can no longer put back in gear unless you turn off ignition, place back in gear and start it again.

    my thoughts.... hydraulic clutch but then again maybe synchronizers, but it shifts too well once you get it in gear. I don't think the clutch itself would be the issue, being as it has plenty of grab with no slip.

    This is the newest Jeep I have ever owned and I am in need of some enlightenment on what I may need to tackle here!
     
  2. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    My '88 YJ (5-speed/four cylinder) is not quite that bad, but I have always had a little grind or clunk getting into first or reverse. Almost as if the clutch pedal does not have enough 'throw.'

    It seems to be a generic design problem in YJ's as far as I can discover. If there is a solution I'd like to hear it.
    I fantasize about a larger diameter clutch master cylinder or a different pedal geometry.

    But first you should try bleeding/flushing the hydraulics. There is a bleed screw next to the bell housing.
     
  3. termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

    Trying to remember...
    The slave cyl is on the outside of the bell, correct?
    See if theres any play, have someone push in clutch and watch the clutch fork. Ive seen worn master/slave cylinders cause problems after i rebuilt or installed new transmissions.
     
  4. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Not on mine ('88 ). I wish!

    The slave is a donut on the throwout bearing. http://jeepro-usa.com/jpproduct/OMIX/16909.06.jpg
     
  5. termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

    Im thinking newer then.
    My guess would still be clutch though. Might have no problem going with no pedal being pushed, but sounds like the slave cyl cant push the cluch disk in far enough to keep the input shaft from spinning. Might be just enough play to allow slipping with the shifter in a gear and locked in to a syncro. Hope that makes sense...
    make sure the clutch pushrod isnt worn out?
     
  6. PeteL

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    I agree with your thoughts. However my '88 is very low miles, I did replace my slave, and I still have the problem - although the OPs '94 may be different.

    Lately I'm wondering if the type of gear lube would make a difference, although I've been following the factory specification. (W75-90)
     
  7. termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

    Not a bad idea either. Fairly easy to drain and see if sludge comes out
     
  8. Oldriginal86

    Oldriginal86 Member

    Had a clutch issue on my sons YJ, took the clutch master cylinder apart and found broken pieces. Replaced it with new. All was good until that one started leaking out the back. Replaced again with a warranty replacement, clutch worked fine until he decided to try knocking a tree over in the neighborhood and totaled the jeep.
     
  9. Long&Low

    Long&Low Active Member

    Some YJ's have internal or external. I would agree, bleed the system, see if you get enough pedal travel then. If not, the your disc may have gone bad, bust a spring, etc, etc.

    Issue with going from 1 to R is probably worn synchros.