Body Mount Kits, Which is the best for a restoration?

Hey folks!

Working on the rear of the tub of a 1960 CJ5

http://1960willysjeep.blogspot.com/

As I am working on repairing the Tub I wanted to replace the body mounts as I go along. There are 2 body mounts on the rear bumper, but also I can see the mounts for the floor and while I am working on the frame and cleaning up the rear of the Jeep, I want to replace them.

I see a lot of kits on 4wd.com and quadratec, any recommendations?

I saw some older forums, but the links were not working or they don't sell those body mount kits anymore.

Thanks!

 

If this is for a restoration, the original insulators are made of tire sidewall. Cut some rectangular sections, punch a hole in the center, and you're done.
http://walcks4wd.com/body-mount-rubber-pad-military-and-cj-models.html

 

Use Google to search, and restrict the search to earlycj5.net ie http://www.google.com/#hl=en&output...pw.r_qf.&fp=5152c89e77ba6c4a&biw=1217&bih=989

 

Is these original for a 67 Cj6? I purchased the round "hockey Puck" and they look like they will put the tub too high? Any experience with these mounts anyone is willing to share.

 

My English teacher is rolling over in her grave. "Are" these orginal for the.....

 

I think the strips of rubber are right for a '67. My book does not go back to '67 though. Somebody else may chime in - or it may have been posted before. I have not gone through all the old posts.

There were a couple of thicknesses of the tire sidewalls, and they had different Jeep part numbers.

I know the intermediates got soft hockey pucks, about 3/8"-1/2" thick.

 

That does describe what the rubber looked like when I removed the rear panels from the bumper. Thanks.

 

In my shop book its says, and I quote: "The body is insulated from the frame with insulator shims placed between the body and frame and held in position by the body bolts."

insulator shims.... That sounds like I could use tires.

 

The old "insulator shims" that came off my '55 were the same canvas webbed material as used on the hood welting and the wrap that goes around the steering tube and insulates it from the dash. But of course there seems to have been many changes to the CJ-5 in the first two years, and more thereafter I'm sure... I replaced all twelve (!) of them with the Walcks version and boy did it make a huge difference as many of the originals were missing and many of the mounting points were steel to steel with a loose bolt..

I'll bet your '60 is supposed to have twelve. Four across the back frame member, two in the bed, two under the tub at the cross member behind the seats, one in the tool box, one in each foot well and one at the very front of the tub on the passenger side, held in with a nail....there appears to be a wood insert in the body channel at the right front....

 

My '68 had the strips of tire tread for body insulation.
I say had, as they are now as solid as concrete.

 

My '70 had squares of tire tread as well. I would think sidewalls would be too thin.

 

The rubber rectangles that Walcks sells has some sort of cord running through it, but I'm pretty sure that it's not tire material. Tire material would sure work and would be pretty tough, but each pad would need to be nearly the same thickness. And, it might just be too hard. The pads i used were stiff but not totally inflexible.

 

Jeep used tires.

I put the parts away, and we had two thicknesses of these in stock. Obviously from tires - the markings were still there. Your complaint about the thicknesses is true - they were slightly different thicknesses - but it did not seem to matter.

 

I kept the old insulators, and now that they've been dusted off and there isn't dirt falling on my face as it was when I removed them..i see that they are made from tire material. The cord and rubber are quite visible..





Randy

 

Nice Pics, How thick are they?

 

The one that is way up front that I did not change, and is held in by a nail, as there is no provision for a bolt either in the frame or the body, measures 1/4". It is still in pretty good condition.The others vary of course and the best example is about 3/16" The Walcks replacements are the same size and are also 1/4".



Randy

 

Thanks. This helps my tub was bolted directly to the frame and I had no idea what to do.

 

Bringing this back from the dead. Seemed like the best place for my question.

I'm trying to reassemble my jeep after restoration and my fenders don't want to line up with my grill. They are about an inch and a half low of the grill and inner section rubs on the frame at the back of the fender if just mounted to the fire wall. I understand they may need to be pulled up some, but they won't go that far without damaging them. I used the Walcks body mounts (1/4") and my fenders are original, not repops. I don't really remember what they were when I took it apart (10 years ago) could my 63 CJ6 have sat on 1/2" or 3/4" body mounts originally at the front or all around? Could it have been thin in the back and thicker in the front?

Thanks guys

 

The original body mounts were between 1/4" -5/16" thick corded material. The center grill mount used a pair of thick rubber biscuits sandwiched on the front crossmember. Do you need a thicker mount for grill to help things line up?
-Donny