Bring me that sultry winch with the fire in her eyes!

I don't like the way the vintage Ramsey winch looks on the front of my CJ-6 and frankly, I don't think I'll ever use it. This will be my tool around Jeep -- some mountain trails and so forth, but no rock climbing or other serious 4-wheeling activity is anticipated. Plus the winch was, of course, made in Tulsa, Oklahoma and to this day any mention of Oklahoma gives me the willys (pun intended).
Any thoughts about advantages or disadvatages of having a winch? This is a completely rebuilt (or so I'm told) 9000 lb. monster that works off of the front pto. Will taking that weight off of the front bumper improve the steering and handling? Does it have any resale value that might help finance the endless tire and wheel quest?
Do I have too much free time to devote to worrying about stuff like this?

 

Resale value: Very High
Nostalgia value: Priceless

IMO, Having a PTO winch is a rare gem.

Wait -- Oh, ummm, worthless! HUGE steering improvements and better gas mileage --tires will cease to wear and your paint will retain its gloss longer! Just send it to me and I will dispose of it for you

 

Yes

 

For Michigan pinstripes: I would send it to you, but the shipping would kill both of us.
Maybe I'll just paint it up pretty and brag about it . . . I'll still never use it.

For JD7 - "Yes" I have too much free time? Or "Yes" this would probably cover a set of tires and wheels?

 

You know its basically the same in the Deuce world. Everybody wants the ones with winches, but they don't actually get used much. Aside from pulling tree stumps now and again, maybe. Just a point of pride. But I agree with pinstripes, you'd probably get a pretty good amount from that.

 

Well, you may not use it often, but when you need it, you certainly will be glad that you have it. No reason to reduce your capability because of "weight" or perceived cosmetic issues.
$0.02

Eric.

 

yes...to the tires and rims. as to free time for jeeps,is there such a thing?

 

Electrical winches are fine if you want to upgrade your alt and electrical system in general. I have use my pto winch 3 times. One of which made me appreciate it very much. They pull like there is no tomorrow, and never, ever, overheat.
They will pull as long as you have gas.
Plus they are driven off the transmission which is very cool.
Which is far removed from amps, ohms & volts, and various things you cant see.
Not wishing to offend anyone, my thoughts are would you like to have electrical powered differentials, or transmissions?
Its a shame they are no longer produced. Just my 2 cents.

 

I'd agree with Jon - great thing to have. The only time an electric is better than a PTO is at a deep ford, where the engine is underwater.

Yes, you could get several hundred bucks for the whole set up. However, don't sell it. You never know when you'll need it.

 

I was going to mention to him to contact Billy........
Nickmil.

 

Keep that winch! I haven't needed my Koenig for the 4 years that I've owned my '67 CJ and wondered if I ever would.

This year in Wyoming I used it to winch a deer 600 yards (using lots of rope) up the side of a canyon. Then, 2 weeks later, I used it again to winch my elk across a creek and a steep uphill to the jeep.

I'm now brainstorming on how to use the winch to load elk into the jeep as I had to use a come-along attached to the roll-bar to get that critter inside.

I've had and still have electric winches, but I like this PTO winch so much better because there's no waiting for the winch motor to cool down.

 

Okay, I guess I'm convinced. I'll clean the winch up, dab a little paint on it and keep it. I don't think I'll ever use it and I know I'll never need to haul an elk up a canyon with it (unless, of course, the elk just surrenders as I don't hunt), but upon reflection and all the sage advice of the more experienced, it seems like this vintage winch is a good thing to hold on to. Besides, it would be hell to remove as parts of it are welded to the bumper brackets.
Now, if I can just find a half-cab hardtop somewhere near here so I can make the 6 into a hot-roddin', wood haulin' pickup . . .
Let me reflect on that while I enjoy a refreshing beverage

 

Jin poles, just like the wreckers used to use

 

would go a-frame, like a old cable-bladed cat. could double as a roll cage IF sturdy enough.

 

hang a snatch block from a tree fold the windshield down and drag tasty dead animal up a couple 2x4's.
Might not work as good with pto (cable next to head when winching) but works great with electric.

 

These are the ptos that you would need for a CJ series of jeep.
In the slop bucket is a twin stick Koenig.
The other twin stick is a Ramsey.
The single output on the right is a Spicer 18H pto for rear output only.
The two next to it are factory Ramseys for M38/M38A1's. They made 2,000 M38's w/ winches. Don't know how many M38A1's. Note one w/ a belt drive on back for a through floor generator.
The one far left is a single stick Ramsey.
The Koenigs are not adjustable for angle, to clear hard parts, whereas the Ramseys are. Please note the angle that the sticks are. The CJ's look like these and those that fit the pickups have a less severe angle when sitting on a floor like these.
Found all these but one in the last month. Got lucky and also found a wrecker assembly for a pickup which I may be trading for a M170. Some one help me.

 

You just wait until the day you hang out way up in the mountains, with the winters 1st big storm blowing in. Having complete faith in my CJ-5 I paid no attention when the other hunters headed out.
I got my elk, as the snow pushed them down, got it quarted and loaded in the jeep, Cooked up a bit of back-strap, then headed down.

The snow was deep enough that I was high centered. Jeep ran fine, the wheels turned fine, just nothing moved.

That was the day, my 8000# winch earned it keep up on the front of the jeep. 5 hours of winching till we got the where the tires could push the snow and we got off the mountain.

Don't leave home without one....