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Air Filter in early housing

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by CJ5aTim, Nov 26, 2010.

  1. CJ5aTim

    CJ5aTim 66 Tux

    Does anyone know if someone makes a newer style cotton or paper element that would take the place of metal screen in an original oil bath air cleaner?
    I would like to keep the original look.:?
     
  2. nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

    There is a conversion that can be done. I don't remember for sure which site it was on but either Derek Redmond's CJ-3b site or G-503.com
    I would guess the 3b site as the other is more military restoration in flavor.

    I'm not aware of a drop in element but there may be something out there.
     
  3. 4XFool

    4XFool 60 Willys CJ5

    I worried about doing that to mine for a long time but then when I did it, it was fairly easy and works well. I'll try to get some pics tomorrow, describe what I did and what paper filter I used.

    I know that I read a nice write-up with pics. I just can't remember where it was.
     
  4. andy howell

    andy howell Member

  5. andy howell

    andy howell Member

  6. CJ5aTim

    CJ5aTim 66 Tux

    :beer::beer:I was sure that someone had dealt with this previously. Too cool! Thank you Andy, Greg and Nickmil. I believe I can mock up the adapter, looks pretty straightforward. This site has a great source of knowledge in it's members. You all ROCK! More dimensions would have been nice in the sketch though.....
     
  7. unclebill

    unclebill Banned

    have a modded one if you want it.

    p.m. sent
     
  8. UncleSam

    UncleSam Sponsor

    Unclebill, If CJ5aTim doesn't want it I would be interested in it,


    PM sent
     
  9. Old Bill

    Old Bill Aggressively passive....

    Dang! Another project on top of the pile. One day, my wife's gonna find me buried out in the garage... :D
     
  10. Long&Low

    Long&Low Active Member

    I'm just asking, but, isn;t the oil bath design actually pretty good, why would you want to change it? Benefits, drawbacks. sure, the oil can be messy, but it's seems like the KISS principle wins hands down to me?
     
  11. unclebill

    unclebill Banned

    the PO modded mine.
    i took it off ,threw it in the shed
    and replaced it with the oil bath.
    i never understood the argument that they are messy.
    we are talking about 50 year old vehicles that leak everywhere aren't we?
     
  12. CJ5aTim

    CJ5aTim 66 Tux

    Okay, this begs the question- has anyone actually compared the filtering qualities of the "oil bath" verus the dry filter.... Is the oil bath just as effective? Inquiring minds demand to know! flow rates, filter efficiencies.....
     
  13. unclebill

    unclebill Banned

    i always assumed it was convenience that was the reason for the change.
    all that multi-million dollar heavy equipment machinery that still use oil baths ...
     
  14. CJ5aTim

    CJ5aTim 66 Tux

    Damn you Unclebill for making me think. Yes, newer doesn't automatically mean better! Wow, you are good.
     
  15. unclebill

    unclebill Banned

    does that mean you dont want my new and improved one anymore?
     
  16. andy howell

    andy howell Member

    back in '79 i traded in a bronco (mistake)! on a new f100 4x4. it had a 300 six (mistake # two)! anyway it had an oil bath air cleaner on it. it was an extra cost option!
    andy
     
  17. nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

    The oil bath style typically are better at filtration but are also more typically neglected and are messier during service (probably why they tend to be neglected:().
    To do a side by side flow measurement, etc. would require a very expensive flow bench.
    Having said that, there is a reason heavy equipment runs them in dusty/industrial applications...

    Used oil can be recycled into other things. Dry filters typically get thrown in landfills.

    Just a few things to consider.
     
  18. unclebill

    unclebill Banned

    the cheapskate part of me loves the idea of never having to buy a filter.
     
  19. CJ5aTim

    CJ5aTim 66 Tux

    Must admit it is nice having less consumables involved. Staying "greener" by staying older (original). Seems odd at first glance. There's an article in this for JP i would think........:D:JEEP:
     
  20. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    This has been discussed before-

    Upside on the oil bath is that it filters a lot better than a paper element.

    Downside is if you don't service regularly the mesh gets so coated with crud nothing sticks anymore & they don't filter at all.

    Oil bath makes a lot of sense for *really* dusty environments but I suspect an appropriately sized shop vac HEPA filter would work as well as the oil for a conversion.

    H.