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Welding Or Bolting?

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by neohic, Jan 16, 2023.

  1. neohic

    neohic Gentleman Jeepist

    I'll be working on rock sliders and tying my cage into the frame on my '75 soon. What I'm looking for is opinions on whether or not to weld everything directly to my frame or to bolt them on. I’ve got my opinion, but I’m really curious what other fabricators think.

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    Last edited: Jan 16, 2023
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  2. Jw60

    Jw60 That guy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I'ld bolt it with sandwich plates. Spread the load out and it is removable making repairs easier.
     
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  3. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    You know the right answer. :D
     
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  4. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Here is what I did.
    The flat plate is the sandwich plate for my cage plate.


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  5. neohic

    neohic Gentleman Jeepist

    Agreed. :cool:

    I know how I want to do it but I also think it’s interesting when looking around in internet land what others think. There’s the whole “if you think you trust your welds” and “what about the heat affected zone?” on the pro bolt side. On the other hand is “how is putting a ton of holes on your frame not affecting it?” or “things flex and bolt holes elongate” from the pro weld group.

    I guess I was looking for opinions specifically from the early CJ crowd that knows how these frames flex and move over time. This goes hand in hand with plating, not plating, or partial plating.
     
  6. neohic

    neohic Gentleman Jeepist

    This is a great example in tying a cage to a frame. So many people don’t use a bottom bushing though. My sliders will be out rigger style that won’t be bolting to the body. These will essentially just be frame extensions so there won’t be any bushings.
     
  7. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Since my cage is tied to the body and the body is mounted with bushings, I used bushings on the bottom to allow some give when the frame flexes.
     
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  8. 73 cj5

    73 cj5 Not ready for the junkyard yet

    I actually tried to do something like that last night. Spent more time removing what I did and doing it the way I should have done it the first time.
     
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  9. Jeepenstein

    Jeepenstein Me like Jeep.. 2024 Sponsor

    I welded 1/2" plate to my frame that had four 3/8 - 16 tapped holes that I bolt to. My frame is boxed so I didn't want to "sandwich" and I wanted them removable.
     
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  10. neohic

    neohic Gentleman Jeepist

    My original plan was to sandwich thick rubber mat between the underside of the body and a matching plate to the floor plates. Went scrounging through my parts and found these instead. (y)

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  11. Lucas

    Lucas New Member

    Weld sliders and bolts where the unite with cage as well as some easy accessible tack welds for insurance
     
  12. neohic

    neohic Gentleman Jeepist

    To wrap up this thread, I ended up bolting my sliders to the frame and then used bushings from the outriggers to the cage legs.

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