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Hei Help 225

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jackdog, Jul 23, 2020.

  1. jackdog

    jackdog Member

    Decided to upgrade to the HEI. Did the mods so it would fit. Engine #1 cylinder in TDC compression position. HEI dropped in with #1 on the cap and rotor matched. Vacuum adv pointed to front of engine. HEI dropped right in same position as the old Delco. I can get it to start but only fires on 2-4-6 cylinders. Have moved the dist. one tooth both ways doesn't seem to help. Have seen where odd fires only fire on one bank but can't seem to find it again. Ran fine on the Delco dist.
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2020
  2. Focker

    Focker That's a terrible idea...What time? Staff Member

    Do your wires match this?
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  3. jackdog

    jackdog Member

    Yes I used this as a reference.
     
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  4. Fireball

    Fireball Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

  5. colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

    I just did this yesterday, I set mine up like the diagram Focker posted and it runs good.
     
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  6. masscj2a

    masscj2a Member 2023 Sponsor

    I'm going to do my 70 either this week or next. So I'm listening.
     
  7. jackdog

    jackdog Member

    I think everything is installed right, went over all info I could find. Still dead on 1-3-5 cylinders, no spark. Going to install a new module in the AM>
     
  8. Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

    Make sure you were on the COMPRESSION Stroke for TDC on number one...
     
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  9. iharding

    iharding Quitter

    This is a super slick foolproof way to find tdc.
     
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  10. jackdog

    jackdog Member

    Thought of that, pulled the dist. and turned 180 degrees. Just backfired thru the carb.
     
  11. Focker

    Focker That's a terrible idea...What time? Staff Member

    Does the distributor have a good ground?
     
  12. jackdog

    jackdog Member

    Pulled the dist. out and took it apart. Noticed the pick up tangs on the shaft had been filed/ground down. One tang even touches the pick up tang in the dist. Would this cause the problem?
    I believe the ground is good, but will put a ground wire on the housing when reinstalled.
     
  13. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    Not supposed to touch. The iron spikes on the shaft are called the reluctor. There is a current flowing through the pickup coil, making a small local magnetic field focused at the iron points of the pickup. When the pair of iron points come near and pass, the iron changes the field characteristics which causes a voltage change across the pickup coil. This is detected as a trigger signal by the control module.

    The reluctor needs to be centered so all the trigger signals are the same. Not sure if this is enough to goof up the module triggering - maybe - but it's not right regardless.

    Whose distributor is this? Reman or new production? I'd want a different one.
     
  14. jackdog

    jackdog Member

    Bought it used, but the guy promised it was good :sneak:.
    I filed the contact point down so it didn't touch and re-installed. Ran a little better with #3 now firing.
    Still running bad, had enough for now and put the Delco back in and it runs great.
    I'll probably order a rebuilt HEI and try again.
     
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  15. Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

    It's like kids and koodies or people and Covid - NO TOUCHING....:schooled: