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Oil Change On ‘63

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Ray Hogan, Aug 8, 2019.

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  1. Ray Hogan

    Ray Hogan Member

    i’m going to begin fluid changes. Spoke with PO who said it had been a few years. Have a service manual now,?but my research is showing about as many different engine oils being used now as old jeep owners, ha...diesel oil, zinc additive controversies, flat tappet stuff, etc. anyway, I need engine oil and replacement oil filter. Trying to stay original, and recommendation help appreciated. Will proceed with tens, transfer case and difs next, thanks.
     
    Ray Hogan, Aug 8, 2019
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  2. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    I will recommend Valvoline 15/40 diesel oil and a Fram C-3 cartridge....assuming you have a canister filter.
     
    Glenn, Aug 8, 2019
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  3. Ray Hogan

    Ray Hogan Member

    Thanks, it’s even on sale right now at the local Tractor Supply, $10.79/gal. The Fram cartridge I’ll need to look around for. Can I use the Valvoline 15/40 in the air filter lower pan, or something even cheaper...the TSM calls for SAE 40? Thanks again!
     
    Ray Hogan, Aug 8, 2019
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  4. Ray Hogan

    Ray Hogan Member

    657F7A19-5353-43AC-B149-26A4035B6F92.png Both of these from the nearby auto parts place are shown to fit ... which should I get, thanks.
     
    Ray Hogan, Aug 8, 2019
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  5. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Fram C3P is what you need. Not really critical but using the same engine oil in the air cleaner is a normal practice.
     
    Glenn, Aug 8, 2019
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  6. 65seejayfive

    65seejayfive Blazin’ new trails

    I am running Rotella T4 15W-40 with good results, but like you said there’s a lot of different opinions. It’s been working for me though (y)
     
    65seejayfive, Aug 8, 2019
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  7. Ray Hogan

    Ray Hogan Member

    Glenn, why the C3 over the C134? The C3 is almost twice the cost...is it that much better? Just curious and learning all that I can, thanks!
     
    Ray Hogan, Aug 10, 2019
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  8. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    I've never tried a different part number of the same brand. Looking at the picture though I see a physically stronger looking filter in the C3P, plus a bail (handle) on the C3P, making it much easier to remove at changing time.
     
    Glenn, Aug 10, 2019
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  9. Lockman

    Lockman OK.....Now I Get It . 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Ray , You want an Oil with a higher Zinc Additive. It does help greatly on Flat Tappets , which you have . WIX is the best filter on the market today. German Made.
     
    Lockman, Aug 10, 2019
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  10. Greevesman

    Greevesman Member

    Brad Penn 30 wt. Green Pennsylvania oil with lots of zinc. Porsche and VW forums seem to like it.
     
    Greevesman, Aug 10, 2019
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  11. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Maybe I'm wrong in my thinking but it seems to me an oil that can help diesel engine components withstand 17.3 to 1 compression has to be good stuff. As far as the filter goes it's only a bypass system anyway so the best filter might not mean much anyway.
     
    Glenn, Aug 10, 2019
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  12. Lockman

    Lockman OK.....Now I Get It . 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    That's exactly what I use in my Buick V6 Turbo.......(y)
     
    Lockman, Aug 10, 2019
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  13. Lockman

    Lockman OK.....Now I Get It . 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Your not ' Wrong ' Glenn, in fact your very knowledgeable, Sir. Higher Zinc is used for new part break in and flat tappets.
     
    Lockman, Aug 10, 2019
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  14. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Grand National?
     
    Glenn, Aug 10, 2019
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  15. Lockman

    Lockman OK.....Now I Get It . 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Yes Sir.... I was told that the engine was recently rebuilt ?
     
    Lockman, Aug 11, 2019
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  16. Ray Hogan

    Ray Hogan Member

    What about “time”? If I don’t drive the jeep 1000’s of miles every year, how long would you go between engine oil changes? Thanks!
     
    Ray Hogan, Aug 11, 2019
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  17. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    That's another loaded question. :D Once a year is a good number. Especially if you don't run it very often either. Start it once a week or every other week and let it run till totally warmed up is a good practice.
     
    Glenn, Aug 11, 2019
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  18. Ray Hogan

    Ray Hogan Member

    Ok, thanks, pretty sure I’ll be doing 20-30 miles a week minimum, ha.
     
    Ray Hogan, Aug 11, 2019
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  19. Ray Hogan

    Ray Hogan Member

    35EB07A0-5D77-4709-AC19-64AC123A259F.jpeg 5B1CD836-A3F1-4B10-8A85-34984AEF2F8B.jpeg Well, I picked up the oil filter from flaps and although designated with the correct same ID, it looked totally different and less “substantial” ... no metal side wall, only paper, and a tiny handmade-looking handle on top, ha. I didn’t accept it and went down the street to a competitor and purchased an in stock Wix that “looked” better to me, ha.
     
    Ray Hogan, Aug 11, 2019
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  20. 47v6

    47v6 junk wrecker! 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Wix makes good filters. There are YouTube videos showing the interior construction of different brands
     
    47v6, Aug 11, 2019
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