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Flanged 44 To Full Float???

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Jay's WWII Jeeps, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. Can you convert a flanged offset 44 to a full float?
    Thanks
    Jay
     
  2. jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

    If think Herm had a kit at one time.
    herm the overdrive guy
     
  3. I do see that herm does make a kit. The kit only offers one length axel shaft. Isn't the later 44 wider?
    Thanks
    Jay
     
  4. 73 cj5

    73 cj5 Not ready for the junkyard yet

    I am sure all CJ 44’s except that one in 86 are the same narrow track width.
     
  5. The dana 30 that is pair with it is wider than a 25. I will have to go to my yard and get the tape measure out.
    Thanks
    Jay
     
  6. wheelie

    wheelie beeg dummy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor

    If the axle shafts shown as available are all the same length, it would seem that the kit is not for an offset flanged 44 but rather 1972 and later models that were centered.
     
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  7. There is a short and long shaft.
     
  8. 73 cj5

    73 cj5 Not ready for the junkyard yet

    Here is a list of some of the stuff to make a D44 FF like the D23-2. I don't remember where I found this but I had it written down in a binder.

    77-86 Jeep Spindles $301.xx

    Omix Ada 1670504 $57.00x2.

    wheel bearings and a spindle seal 81 CJ5

    bolt pattern on the bearing hub is 6 on 3.437" with a flange OD of 4.100

    You will also need to have the entire length turned down to 1.29" OD to pass through the spindle.

    30 SPL Carrier

    axles ~395 *dutchman*
     
  9. garage gnome

    garage gnome ECJ5 welder

    The ends of the flanged axle tube are a different bolt pattern than the early two piece D44s, so how will a spindle bolt up to it?
     
  10. 73 cj5

    73 cj5 Not ready for the junkyard yet

    It’s for a tapered d44 then.
     
  11. 47v6

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  12. Why? Locking rear hubs are nice for flat towing. Also if you break an axel you don't loose a wheel!!!
     
  13. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    Trade the flanged axle with someone who would love to have it, and use a tapered axle to go full float.
     
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  14. 73 cj5

    73 cj5 Not ready for the junkyard yet

    I got you two tapered 44’s :whistle:
     
  15. I think I have a few as well. Was hoping to use the flanged one as it’s the same width as the Dana 30 up front.
     
  16. Keys5a

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    I think tapered and flanged are nearly the same width, if not identical. Spacers are what are usually used on the rear if you want the same track width.
    -Donny
     
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  17. Interesting, I guess I need to get a tape measure out!!
     
  18. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    And I sorta remember it being mentioned that going FF spaces the wheels out an inch or two more? Might be imagining that.
     
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  19. I have one of herms kits on my 2a, I will check that as well.
    Thanks
    Jay
     
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  20. 47v6

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    The full float gives you a bit more width.