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Jeep length issue?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Jonbbrew, Nov 29, 2015.

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  1. Jonbbrew

    Jonbbrew Member

    image.jpg Hey all!

    Question I always wanted to ask...when looking at others Jeeps it appears either my frame is shorter or my tub is longer. The back number seems to be tucked in under the tub more than others. Any thoughts?


     
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  2. sterlclan

    sterlclan Member 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    how is the front lined up? perhaps its all too far rearward...
     
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  3. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Is that by chance on a flat fender frame? The rear cross member section looks kind of short for sure.
     
    Glenn, Nov 29, 2015
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  4. 04sd2

    04sd2 Member

    Sure looks like it's on a flatfender frame. The front bumper also appears to be really close to the grill for a CJ5.
     
    04sd2, Nov 29, 2015
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  5. Jonbbrew

    Jonbbrew Member

    It's titled as a 63 Willys CJ5. It does not have a VIN Tag and i havent tried to find the frame stamping. But maybe the PO(s) did some crazy mods like the tub and mounting.

    I like flag fenders more but a 63 wouldn't be flat or I would exchange them.
     
    Jonbbrew, Nov 29, 2015
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  6. Jonbbrew

    Jonbbrew Member

    How could I check the frame to try to determine.
     
    Jonbbrew, Nov 29, 2015
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  7. Jonbbrew

    Jonbbrew Member

     

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  8. oldtime

    oldtime oldtime

    Yeah I agree that's almost for sure a CJ-5 body on a flatty frame.
    Sell the CJ-5 body and put a 3B body on it.
    Does your particular title number specify the model or only the vintage ?
    Some but not all flatty frames are stamped.

    http://cj3b.info/SerialNos/SerialNosFrame.html
     
    oldtime, Nov 29, 2015
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  9. Jonbbrew

    Jonbbrew Member

    Makes more sense but I guess I need to do more research. I have been wanting and hoping to find a VIN stamp without pulling the tub.

    So are you stating there is a chance this title is wrong and I could have a older rig? Flat fenders were not on 63s right?

    Title states 63 Willys CJ5
     
    Jonbbrew, Nov 29, 2015
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  10. oldtime

    oldtime oldtime

    Model CJ-3B was built from 1953 to half way through 1965 in the US.
     
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  11. aallison

    aallison 74 cj6, 76 cj5. Has anyone seen my screwdriver?

    Can you post up some more picts of the frame? FWIW, my jeep is a 74 cj but it sits on a 76 frame. So yaa, they do get screwed up.
     
    aallison, Nov 29, 2015
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  12. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    They made 3B's and 5's and 6's all at the same time, until the time Ken mentioned they quit the 3B.
     
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  13. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Flat fenders wouldn't work on a CJ5. Flatty tubs and CJ5 tubs are very different at the front/cowl section. I can't help but wonder.... how did it get registered without a vin tag? Sure there isn't one under the hood on the drivers' side of the firewall?
     
    Glenn, Nov 29, 2015
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  14. Jonbbrew

    Jonbbrew Member

    No there isn't a tag anywhere. That's why I want to find the frame
    stamp. It was registered 20 years ago at least then sat. The PO stated her dad built it from someone he bought all the parts from. So it's looking more like something is a miss here.

    If I do find out its a 3bframe and wanted to find a tub for it, the leg room is much smaller right? What would the advantage be on switching it out?
     
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  15. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    I can't think of any advantage to it other than having a body that matched the frame. Since your title states CJ5 I think your best bet would be to try to get a reproduction id tag for the firewall.
     
    Glenn, Nov 29, 2015
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  16. homersdog

    homersdog Tulsa, Ok 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    The other advantage of a 3B is increased coolness factor, IMHO.
     
    homersdog, Nov 29, 2015
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  17. Jonbbrew

    Jonbbrew Member

    Yeah that was my plan but may have to think about a new body to match frame. I like the flatties but I assume getting a full body would be pricey.
     
    Jonbbrew, Nov 29, 2015
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  18. Jonbbrew

    Jonbbrew Member

    I agree. They are very cool.
     
    Jonbbrew, Nov 29, 2015
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  19. WorkInProgress

    WorkInProgress Member

    If it was a early cj5 frame, then the frame should be stamped with the serial number on the passenger side, on the top of the frame, near the firewall. Like mine does
     
    WorkInProgress, Nov 30, 2015
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  20. Jonbbrew

    Jonbbrew Member

    Can you see it with the body on?
     
    Jonbbrew, Nov 30, 2015
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