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Varg In Jeep's Clothing

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by ITLKSEZ, Aug 20, 2015.

  1. Admiral Cray

    Admiral Cray I want to do this again.. Staff Member

    I could tow it with my new Home Depot tow hitch...

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  2. Focker

    Focker That's a terrible idea...What time? Staff Member

    :lol:
     
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  3. SFaulken

    SFaulken Active Member

    Yup, the 85/86 302 Equipped F-Series and Broncos, and all the 87-91 Fuel Injected Fords use this setup, low pressure pumps in the tanks, feeding the High Pressure pump on the frame rail. They'll run without the in-tank pumps, for a minute.....
     
  4. Jw60

    Jw60 That guy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I have a trailer connector mid ship. Unplug the tail lights from the harness to the dash, plug er into the tow vehicle with about 10' of extension.

    Works great until you bust a tail light on the trail.
     
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  5. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    I did a dry run of disconnecting the driveshaft and holding it up with a shortened ratchet strap. I drilled holes into the frame boxing to hook to.

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    The nice thing about the twin-stick’d Dana 300, if I need to unhook and move the jeep in a hurry, I can lock in the hubs, switch the rear into neutral and the front in gear for front wheel drive without the rear driveshaft spinning.
     
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  6. 73 cj5

    73 cj5 Not ready for the junkyard yet

    All you need is a driveshaft loop so you don't have to fool with a ratchet strap. :)
     
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  7. Rich M.

    Rich M. Shoe salesman 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Rear in neutral? Can't wrap my head around it. Elaborate please..
     
  8. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    Dana 20s with the pill removed, and Dana 300s when converted to twin stick: the left shifter controls the rear drive, and the right shifter controls the front. If both shifters are rearward, that’s high range, 4wd. Both shifters forward, that low range 4wd. Normal street driving is left shifter rearward, right shifter centered (neutral). Front wheel drive is by shifting the rear into neutral and the right shifter in low or high. So you can put the 300 in any combination of H/L/N, but it does prevent you from putting the the axles in opposing ranges and self destructing. The D20 in my 3b (with the pill removed) doesn’t, and it’ll run different ranges front/rear.
     
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  9. Rich M.

    Rich M. Shoe salesman 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Duh brain fart, could only process d18 twin stick through my head...
     
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  10. Twin2

    Twin2 not him 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor


    I would have to have a dash sticker , so I wouldn't blow something up
     
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  11. Twin2

    Twin2 not him 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I always wondered about the 300 shift pattern . front wheel or rear
    come to think about it , didn't someone post a unimog transmission
    talk about shifters
     
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  12. Admiral Cray

    Admiral Cray I want to do this again.. Staff Member

    It might be worth making a safety lock out, just in case...
     
  13. well said. for those who see this on page 220, i'm about to page 70, this is amazing. the nerve of moser to not send back that fancy box...
     
  14. i just spent a lot of hours of my time reading this, and i have seen many things. i now have a severe need to see this thing, it seems almost mythical. :bow:

    anyway, now i need to :sleep:
     
  15. mortten

    mortten I can’t put my finger on it 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Yes. The mythical Varg.
     
  16. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    A word on mileage...

    I’ve been clocking the mileage on this thing since I started driving it. I’d gotten a low of 16 and a high of 19mpg, with interstate driving sucking the most fuel.

    That is, until the other day when I had the key on non-stop through an entire tank of fuel for the first time, that even included 40 miles of interstate travel (including two mountain passes, one on and one off the freeway), and it got 23mpg between fill ups. This seems to have confirmed my suspicions....

    My GPS speedometer has an odometer that tracks mileage to whole miles. The trip meter tracks to 1/10th of a mile, but it resets every time the key is turned off, and the odometer follows the trip meter. For example, if I start the jeep and run to the end of our dirt road and shut the engine off, the trip meter reads .9 miles. Come back home, and it’s another .9 miles. That 1.8 miles never triggered at all on the odometer. So basically, every puddle jump I use it to run to town (which I do a lot), it’s not clocking .5 miles on average of miles, causing my mpg calculations to be quite skewed towards the rich side.

    I’m sure I’m not getting 23mpg through every tank, but I’ll bet that’s closer to he truth than 16-19.
     
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  17. i would imagine that somewhere in the middle would be a good assumption to make, but either way it's better than original.
     
  18. Steve's 70-5

    Steve's 70-5 Active Member

    Looks like you are going to have a low mileage Jeep
     
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  19. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    I don’t think I ever showed the contents of my rear drawer. Everything is stored in old pant legs. I cut them off above the knee and sew the cut area together. They make killer tool bags.

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    1. A rag. Something I desperately wished I had onboard in Moab.
    2. A big tow strap. This also stores my hatchet/hammer.
    3. Standard/metric tool kit.
    4. Long zip ties... and I can’t remember what else. Small odds and ends.
    5. An automotive jack. I chose not to carry a hi-lift to save weight and space. I figure where I go, there are enough trees to get creative with the cage and the winch if I need to lift a side.
    6. An assortment of ratchet straps.
    7. Tools. Multimeter, wrenches, pliers, tape, tire plugs and patches... everything that’s not included in the main tool case.
    8. Distilled water. Radiator and battery safe, and potable in a pinch.
    9. Spare coil. I still need to grab a spare ignition module and fuel pump to feel safe.
    10. Winch wire. The remote is wireless and stays in my console, but the wire comes along. Because life.
    11. Oil.
    12. Inside this towel (that I was VERY happy to lay on in the sands of Moab) is a cross-bar for tire removal.

    Everything is isolated to keep rattles to a minimum. The only time I hear anything is when I launch it and stuff smacks the top of the cabinet.

    My center console stores everything else. I have a small bag that holds all the tire stuff... deflators, air chuck, nozzle, valve stems, etc... I also carry my SPOT, a battery pack for charging/flashlight, gloves, hat, lighter, and anything else I could think of.
     
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  20. givemethewillys

    givemethewillys Been here since sparky ran it. 2022 Sponsor

    [kicking self for throwing out old pants for YEARS].... Great idea!