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error in early CJ5/6 frame diagram?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by lowslowTJ, Sep 18, 2010.

  1. lowslowTJ

    lowslowTJ Member

    So I have been studying this diagram to build a frame for my 56 cj5. tonight I noticed that it seems to indicate that the rear springs are ~56 inches long. thats not right. I mean #12 + #13 should be the rear spring length, right? Also notice that #12 + #13 sums to a larger number than #15 which is supposedly longer (according to the diagram).

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    Am I reading this wrong? Is #13 wrong? I mean 44.69 seems like its longer than a rear ECJ5/6 spring.
     
  2. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    Spring length is longer than #12+#13. That is the distance from the spring hanger to shackle bracket.
     
  3. lowslowTJ

    lowslowTJ Member

    OK, sure. Either way no early cj5 has or had a 56+inch rear spring.
     
  4. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    46" or there abouts
     
  5. napaguy

    napaguy Banned

    I am pretty sure thats the diagram for the later cj's notice the front crossmember? The diagram I have in my fsm for the earlier units is different than that.
     
  6. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    It is definitely a diagram for a later CJ, notice it has the wheelbase at 84" for a cj5 and a 104" for a cj6. For an early it should have been 81" and a 101".
     
  7. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    I didn't even notice that, but yes, it's not for an early.
     
  8. lowslowTJ

    lowslowTJ Member

    is the over all length still 131.38? I hope so, cause thats how long my frame is!

    so do we assume that #13 is wrong or #12?
     
  9. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    If you used those numbers it is to long for an early body, youi have to remember the intermediates and later frames were designed with a longer wheelbase and to accomodate a straight 6. Should be 128-7/16" OAL. Thats according to my service manual.
     
  10. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    This is the correct frame drawing for a '56-


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  11. lowslowTJ

    lowslowTJ Member

    well poop! Its gonna be a long 56 then.
     
  12. 1969_CJ5

    1969_CJ5 Sponsor

    May or may not be helpful...

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  13. 73cj5

    73cj5 Member

    That diagram is from an 73 jeep FSM. I scanned it in myself a few years ago (i know because its crooked:) )

    It does appear that its incorrect. I would assume the centerline to centerline, for the spring hangers is 44.69 considering the springs are 42in eye to eye.
     
  14. lowslowTJ

    lowslowTJ Member

    73cj5, I think you may be the only person who actually read what I wrote on the first post LOL! Your reasoning sounds good to me.

    1969_CJ5, that is a useful diagram. I wish I had it a few months back! :)
     
  15. napaguy

    napaguy Banned