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Rear Box/tire Carrier Fab Idea?

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Iandavidh, Sep 17, 2020.

  1. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    B2DD322C-59FD-47F7-B2DA-97537883D73D.jpeg My friend drew this up the other day. It’s just a box for storage and the spare will Mount on the back of it. I’ll have it be able to take it on and off in 15-20 minutes. Thoughts?
     
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    Iandavidh, Sep 17, 2020
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  2. Bigdaddy13

    Bigdaddy13 Member

    Great idea, and nice drawing. Some thoughts:

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    Bigdaddy13, Sep 17, 2020
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  3. FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

    JMO, I looked at doing something similar with my rear bumper mounted tire carrier (before I had the 2nd fuel tank - i was looking at carrying fuel cans between the tailgate and tire carrier - but I really did not like the aesthetic of how far out the tire carrier stuck out behind the tailgage. It wasn't so much a functional issue of departure angle/clearance etc - just look unpleasing to the eye. The short wheelbase of an ecj5 just doesn't lend itself to much rear length behind the bumper.
     
    FinoCJ, Sep 17, 2020
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  4. Bigdaddy13

    Bigdaddy13 Member

    Like this, James? :D

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    Bigdaddy13, Sep 17, 2020
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  5. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    Mine is an intermediate if that helps the dimensions:D
     
    Iandavidh, Sep 17, 2020
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  6. FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

    yup...aesthetics are personal, but not my favorite. In the end, I chose to install a rear 15 gal tank between the frame rails as that was more fuel and easier to access (flip a switch) than separate cans. I modified a Tomken tire bumper tire carrier, and due to its design, the tire carrier (without additional room for fuel cans) is already a few inches off the tailgate, and even that bother's me a little bit. I've got issues....

    edit - I also noticed you have a pretty narrow tire, so the aesthetics a bit better - but I run a 10.5 wide tire, and that is just a few more inches of rear stick-out.
     
    FinoCJ, Sep 17, 2020
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  7. Bigdaddy13

    Bigdaddy13 Member

    Haha!, yeah, i honestly questioned my setup when i had my 10.5 spare mounted. Looked a bit too long.

    it’s my long term goal to ditch the underseat tank and install a later, larger rear-mounted 78 and up tank, so the tire carrier might get repurposed at that point to just water or water and other gear, maybe.
     
    Bigdaddy13, Sep 17, 2020
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  8. FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

    I kept both tanks - 25 gal of fuel isn't really all that much in some places out west. Converting the fuel can carrier to water carrier is a good idea...I did that with the 5 gal fuel can carrier that I used to use. After the dual tank set-up, I got a water can that fits on the same carrier and I use it very occasionally when needed - such as the rubicon or wandering around utah. I usually have water filtration or purification stuff with me from my backpacking stuff - which actually worked really well on the rubicon this year, (not too mention lots of beer) so I don't use the water can all that often (and it does look funny hanging off the end of the spare tire).
     
    FinoCJ, Sep 17, 2020
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  9. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    This is one of the best ideas I ever stole from you! :rofl:
    Last Rubicon trip I picked up a 2 gallon collapsible water jug and a hand pump water filter. Started off with the jug full and pumped as necessary.
    Really saves space in the jeep and ice chest!
     
    Norcal69, Sep 17, 2020
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  10. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    Another question, so how is my handling going to be affected by that weight behind the rear axle like that? It’s on almost brand new bds springs. I’d assume It’d ride like a caddy:D
     
    Iandavidh, Sep 17, 2020
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  11. 73 cj5

    73 cj5 Not ready for the junkyard yet

    I've never noticed a difference in the ride quality/handling with a spare tire. I will say if you plan on running through the woods, in the right conditions it can be damaged.
     
    73 cj5, Sep 17, 2020
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  12. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    Most of my wheeling is desert running and fireroads. I’m gonna make it easy enough to take off so if I wanna do super technical wheeling itll be off less than 20 minutes.
     
    Iandavidh, Sep 17, 2020
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  13. Jw60

    Jw60 That guy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Some of the guys at the 2018 fall reunion had bed extensions and the spare on the side of the extension. I felt they lifted the front wheels way too much compared to the rest of the jeeps. They didn't flex at all just lifted the front off.
     
    Jw60, Sep 17, 2020
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  14. bigjohn

    bigjohn Active Member

    Jabbed and his pump filter was a life saver for us in 19 too. I haven't picked one up but it's on my too do list very soon.
     
    bigjohn, Sep 17, 2020
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  15. bigjohn

    bigjohn Active Member

    My thought when planning the spare situation was pushing everything as low and forward as possible. The spare is 1/4" off the tailgate delete and the same from the bumper. The high lift forward but over the tailgate. This isn't the best way to do it I'm sure but with my soft springs I placed a heavy value on balance and not leveraging any more weight beyond the rear axle than necessary.
     
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  16. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    How technical were the obstacles they were hitting? Stock suspension?
     
    Iandavidh, Sep 18, 2020
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  17. Jw60

    Jw60 That guy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

     
    Jw60, Sep 18, 2020
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  18. browncoat

    browncoat Member

    This is what I did with my 5 when I had it.

    Looked OK in my opinion.
    As long as the rack is nice and strong to carry all the weight it works well.



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    browncoat, Sep 18, 2020
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  19. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    Hmmm something to consider
     
    Iandavidh, Sep 18, 2020
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