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Body Mount Washers?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Buildflycrash, Nov 10, 2017.

  1. Buildflycrash

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  2. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Use tread from old car tires…?
     
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  3. timgr

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    Year? it would help to put model-specific info in your sig.

    The Early CJs used rectangular rubber spacers that were obviously cut from tire sidewalls. You can do the same, or buy the more tidy repops from Walcks or another Jeep aftermarket retailer. Body Mount Rubber Pad Military and CJ Models Search by Willys PN A4416.

    Jeep put wood blocks in the hat channels so they would not collapse when the bolts are tightened, and the washers were plain fender washers which you can get at the hardware store.
     
  4. Buildflycrash

    Buildflycrash More or Less in Line. 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    The Jeep is a 66. The mounts from Quadratec are definitely more than a slab of Rubber. The washers shown Look like Blind Nuts but arn't threaded but again not the year we are needing.
     
  5. timgr

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    The Quadratec mounts are not a factory part for a '66, nor a replacement for the factory part. They may work for a '72-75. Labeling them as a replacement part for a '66 is wrong, and trying to use them will cause ... issues.

    I know Jeep parts well, and the insulators for that year were sections of tire sidewall.
     
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  6. Twin2

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  7. timgr

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    Jeep had a couple of thickness of the insulators for civilian vehicles, but I'm pretty sure the CJs only used the thin ones that were cut from sidewall. I recall that there was some Jeep app that used thick ones cut from tread, but not the CJ AFAIK.The WWII Jeeps used pieces of felt, and I presume that the CJ-2A started the practice of using old tires for insulators. The round pucks that Ron shows would work too, but you want to be careful not to lift the body too much, screwing up the alignment for the pedals and maybe the column. A big body lift won't work on an early CJ with the through-the-floor pedals. In any case, I recall you only need the washers with the sleeve in the middle when you have a really thick insulator, like a couple of inches. The factory insulators had no sleeve, with plain fender washers top and bottom. Just a bolt, locking nut, and a couple of plain washers. Length of the bolt changed depending on the thickness of the hat channel. Not fancy...
     
  8. 1960willyscj5

    1960willyscj5 Well-Known Member

    Depends on if you want a body lift or not. Drilled hockey pucks will work, too.
     
  9. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    FWIW I used pucks made out of 3/16" UMHW plastic, two per mount with one between the body / mount & one under the mount. They'll never wear out & they allow a little sliding movement between the tub & frame. Total material cost including the nuts/washers/bolts was under $50.
     
  10. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    Tonk had pieces of webbing, same as the M38A1's did.
     
  11. Norcal69

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    I used these. I bought two sets and fender washers at the hardware store. One on top of the frame mount and one below. I used Nylock nuts so I could set the tension without worrying about it backing off.
    No squeaks.
     
  12. PeteL

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    When I was a kid, our first jeep ('56 CJ5) was so rusted out, it had a pair of oak 2x6"s on top of the frame to hold the body up.
     
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  13. Bowbender

    Bowbender I'm workin' on it!

    I'm chopping up an old tire and washers from the hardware store.