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Motorola Alternator

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jeepstar, Jun 2, 2017.

  1. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I have a 1970 cj5, 134 fhead. I'm no electrical genius, and last Fall I kept getting a dead battery. had a friend that is an electromechanical engineer come over with his testing gizmo's. we (he) determined that the alternator was good, but nothing was telling it to turn on, and return power to the batter. so I installed a ballast resistor, and a voltage regulator, and it seemed to fix the issues. well, now I got a dead battery again. I called him up said hey, I am having battery problems again. he came over with all of his stuff, and we found through testing that the alternator is not charging the battery. the alternator is great, and just right for me, but the diodes are shot internally. he thought since we hooked everything up properly, the weakest link broke,m and that was the diodes. He wants me to buy the diodes, and we will install them in my 40 something year old alternator.

    my question is, aren't I better off just buying a brand new alternator? I replace diodes, then the bearings go, etc... what do you guys think?
     
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2017
  2. Twin2

    Twin2 not him 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I wouldn't replace a motorola alternator . just switch over to a delco 10si alternator . no outside regulator required
     
  3. homersdog

    homersdog Tulsa, Ok 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    X2.
     
  4. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    you wouldn't replace it WITH a Motorola?
     
  5. homersdog

    homersdog Tulsa, Ok 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    10si have much higher output and are very simple to install and are cheap and plentiful. I have a dauntless, but it had the same Motorola originally.
     
  6. homersdog

    homersdog Tulsa, Ok 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

  7. Daryl

    Daryl Sponsor

    One of the first things I do on most Jeeps is to put on a 10 (or 12 si if running an electric fan)
     
  8. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    My local auto electrical shop suggest an SA instead of an SI so I switched to it. Soon as the engine is running it's charging, doesn't need to be revved at all to start charging.
     
  9. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    If your trying to keep your Jeep stock, rebuild (or just replace the diodes) to keep it all as it came new. If you just want function and depenability, swap over to a Delco with internal regulator.
    Don't toss that Motorola! Some of us out there like things original, and the old units are getting harder to come by. I could even be interested.
    -Donny
     
  10. maurywhurt

    maurywhurt Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    X2......I had the original 35-amp Motorola on my V6 rebuilt, and got a new repro external voltage regulator from Walck's. It seems to charge the battery normally, even pushing a 300W stereo.

    Motorola also made a 55-amp version of the same alternator that's available as a rebuild. Here's a 55-amp Motorola for less than $50 that's been rebuilt by AC Delco: More Information for ACDELCO 3342209
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2017
  11. mike starck

    mike starck Member

    I to have a Delco one wire on my '69 cj and that is great,but as said some times we want original on our classic vehicle. Just had my 35 amp Motorola rebuilt and works great and looks correct for my '71 Renegade II . Nothing wrong with staying stock. It's your jeep.
     
  12. Rick Whitson

    Rick Whitson Detroit Area 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I used the Motorola mounting bracket and put a GM one wire on it by cutting about an inch off the back side of the one wire so the belt lines up with the crank pulley, and made a spacer for the tensioning arm. It has worked for 10 years now and no problem. There is a 5/8" pulley for the one wire available so you can use the right belt on the front crank pulley. Good luck.
     
  13. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    so, my local autopart store doesn't have a 37 amp replacement for the Motorola, but they DO have a 55 amp unit available, to replace it.
    whats different, other than 18 amps? the larger version just to accommodate more electrical doodads?
     
  14. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Replacement as in another Motorola?
     
  15. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Yes. I just put in a new voltage regulator, may as well use it, right?
     
  16. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    I agree with that but, it has to match (within reason) the alternator capacity.
     
  17. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Ah. So the 55 is too big, ya say?
     
  18. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    I believe the Motorola regulators only adjust for voltage so it won't matter whether he has a 30 or 55 amp unit- the regulator has no way of measuring or setting output based on amps.

    One thing I would do is upgrade the wiring to the fuse block & battery to handle the increased capacity.

    H.
     
  19. jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    My bad. My alternator is actually 51 amps 20170606_150140.jpg
     
  20. Walt Couch

    Walt Couch sidehill Cordele, Ga. 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    The 55 amp Motorola is built in the same package as the 35 amp. A few internal parts are heavier gauge for additional current capabilities and the external plate has two output diodes instead of one. The regulator is a current limiter by sensing voltage so the regulator you have will work with the 55 amp.