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Twin stick levers

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Something in what's left of my noggin tells me that the Jeep trucks and wagons, when they still had twin stick dana 18s, had longer shift levers than the cj models. Is that so or am I misremembering?
 
I can measure the ones in my wagon if that helps....I have a set of twin sticks in a box to convert the CJ, but I honestly couldn't verify what they are from
 
I can measure the 18 levers from a ‘53 wagon.

Jon B.
 
I don't know a thing about the wagons, but the levers for a truck are certainly longer, and are a big plus in a CJ.
 
I would appreciate the help folks. I'd like to use the longer sticks in the 3B.
 
Here are the two pair I have sitting on the shelf (the bends look ever so slightly different only because the black ones have the shifter knob that causes them to sit just a bit different). I do not know for sure that these are CJ, but for some reason i thought so....seem about the same as what John B posted above (his measurements are from the shifter pin). I tried to get a measurement of the ones on my wagon, but no way to get any decent one now that I have the boot and trans cover on. Seems like if yours are the same as these, then they all are essentially the same....if yours are shorter, then you know where you can get a set of longer ones :whistle:
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Dave - I know you have to have a CJ set just sitting around in your collection of stuff....let us know what length your CJ set are....(I might be willing to trade a long set for a short set)
 
I’m going to dig through and semi organize whatever sticks I find this weekend along with some of the other D18 stuff on the shelves. Gears and stuff. I’ll keep you guy up to date with my results. I know I have several sets of twin sticks from cj models as well done dingle stick stuff. Do I have a set from a truck or wagon is the question.
 
I’m going to dig through and semi organize whatever sticks I find this weekend along with some of the other D18 stuff on the shelves. Gears and stuff. I’ll keep you guy up to date with my results. I know I have several sets of twin sticks from cj models as well done dingle stick stuff. Do I have a set from a truck or wagon is the question.
I ended up doing the opposite for my 3B, using the shortest levers I had on the wall (and there are probably a couple dozen to pick from). No idea what their original application was but shorter than my stock versions.
 
So far I've found 5 sets of twin stick levers. 2 are definitely matched....from same vehicle....taped together as a pair and each pair has matching patina knobs. 2 other sets were with transfer cases that both came out of cj5 model jeeps. The 5th set is of unknown origin. The ALL measure roughly 11 1/2" for the short one and 16 1/2" for the long one as measured from the center of the pivot pin hole to the end of the threads at the top. This is measured in a straight line between the two points.
 
So far I've found 5 sets of twin stick levers. 2 are definitely matched....from same vehicle....taped together as a pair and each pair has matching patina knobs. 2 other sets were with transfer cases that both came out of cj5 model jeeps. The 5th set is of unknown origin. The ALL measure roughly 11 1/2" for the short one and 16 1/2" for the long one as measured from the center of the pivot pin hole to the end of the threads at the top. This is measured in a straight line between the two points.
I have a some questions about levers. Not trying to jack this thread but was unsure where to put a new one. @wheelie , please forgive...
I have a NOS Dana 300. No levers, just a dealer's parts tag tied to the hole where the pivot pin would go through. At some point I'll need all of the parts for shifting this thing.

My current set up is a Scout D300 with a single lever. Works just fine, and I'm inclined to keep it. But scratching my head; will it transfer over to the Jeep 300? Anyone know definitively?

Next; what's the advantage of twin sticks? Of a single? Or is it just personal pref? At one point I equaled more shifters to more manly but way too old for that chit.

Lastly, as mentioned I need parts, I think. I'd just as soon swap over the shifter for my present Scout to my future Jeep 300 if it's possible but I'm open to suggestions. If not, then I'll need parts.

Thanks!
 
Do you know what your “new” D300 is from? Like the D18 and D20, I think there were a couple variations of front drive castings depending on application. I’ve never had a Scout D300 (rare piece!) to know the front casting configuration.
There are a couple aftermarket twin-stick shifter setups that are made for later CJ’s that used the D300.I have a cheezy knock-off that I think is made by Omix, but it copied a nice stainless lever setup (maybe JB Custom?). I think both Novak and Advance Adapters both have their versions, provided the front casting is the same as what you have.
If you study some of the photos of the aftermarket twin-stick set-ups, they are pretty simple. About 20 years ago, I borrowed a new set and duplicated it for one of my old projects. I used 1/2” stainless round rod for the levers, and some ss 1/4” plate at the lower pivot. A couple small heim joints and some all-thread linked them to the shift rails.
I like the factory single stick for the D18, but prefer a twin-stick for the D20 and D300.
 
I have a some questions about levers. Not trying to jack this thread but was unsure where to put a new one. @wheelie , please forgive...
I have a NOS Dana 300. No levers, just a dealer's parts tag tied to the hole where the pivot pin would go through. At some point I'll need all of the parts for shifting this thing.

My current set up is a Scout D300 with a single lever. Works just fine, and I'm inclined to keep it. But scratching my head; will it transfer over to the Jeep 300? Anyone know definitively?

Next; what's the advantage of twin sticks? Of a single? Or is it just personal pref? At one point I equaled more shifters to more manly but way too old for that chit.

Lastly, as mentioned I need parts, I think. I'd just as soon swap over the shifter for my present Scout to my future Jeep 300 if it's possible but I'm open to suggestions. If not, then I'll need parts.

Thanks!

The only advantages to twin stick with a Dana 18 are an easier reach and the ability to do low range 2wd. I do 2wd low range around the property here. Sometimes it's nice to go slow without having to engage 4wd.

On the D20 and D300, twin sticks allow you to engage the either the front or the rear in high or low range independently. The allows 2wd low, front wheel drive only, rear wheel drive only, and font digs where you pivot the vehicle by engaging the rear parking brake and pulling the Jeep around with the front tires. Great on switchbacks and other sharp turns. Rory Irish on the Trailmater youtube channel uses this to great effect pulling dead vehicles out of Moab trails.

Whether you need any of that or not is up to you.
 
The only advantages to twin stick with a Dana 18 are an easier reach and the ability to do low range 2wd. I do 2wd low range around the property here. Sometimes it's nice to go slow without having to engage 4wd.

On the D20 and D300, twin sticks allow you to engage the either the front or the rear in high or low range independently. The allows 2wd low, front wheel drive only, rear wheel drive only, and font digs where you pivot the vehicle by engaging the rear parking brake and pulling the Jeep around with the front tires. Great on switchbacks and other sharp turns. Rory Irish on the Trailmaterxy youtube channel uses wd g jn.njh 8h. H h h hx yy yyyyyc the H8 h I g I g I yyxyy8 88. Cyhis to great effect pulling dead vehicles out of Moab trails.

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Also nice to have 2wd when in neutral.

I have a some questions about levers. Not trying to jack this thread but was unsure where to put a new one. @wheelie , please forgive...

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