1963 Us Navy Dj-3a

[Ohiowrangler]

I may have missed it, Is that a single or a double tent cot? Thanks, Ron

 

[timgr]

What kind of pad are you sleeping on?
An air mattress or self-inflating mattress will be cold.

 

[Fireball]

I may have missed it, Is that a single or a double tent cot? Thanks, Ron

Single.

 

[Fireball]

What kind of pad are you sleeping on?
An air mattress or self-inflating mattress will be cold.

No pad. You don't really need one with to cot. However, the cot itself is cold because air flows underneath it.

 

[cj2atruck]

Did a dry run with the cot tent the other night. Very comfy:

Temp was in the low 50s and the camp blankets weren't warm enough with the well ventilated tent. I'll be bringing a sleeping bag ro the Rubicon instead.

Other than that it I really like it and slept well once I put on an extra layer of clothes under the blanket.

My buddy who's going on the trip is coming down next weekend and we'll do a fully packed dry run with two people and all gear in the Jeep.

A lot of cold comes from the bottom up, not the top down. When I ride the BDR routes on my KTM 690, I use a Big Agnes sleeping pad that is rated at R7. When I did the Utah BDR last year with a friend, he had a standard air pad, and when it got colder, he was really, really cold. With my zero rated sleeping bag and the R7 Big Agnes pad, I never got cold, even when temps dipped below freezing at 10,000 feet elevation. I’ll be using the same equipment on the Rubicon trip as well.

Adding blankets under your sleeping bag will help mitigate cold coming from the bottom to some degree.

 

[Norcal69]

No pad. You don't really need one with to cot. However, the cot itself is cold because air flows underneath it.

On the Rubicon trips I sleep in a hammock tied between the Jeep roll cage and a tree.
Hammocks get really cold, so I line it with a HF moving blanket. They sell the large blankets and small blankets. Large blanket folded double inside the hammock and small moving blanket on the ground so I can stand without shoes on when I get up.

 

[Ohiowrangler]

Single.

Thanks

 

[timgr]

On the Rubicon trips I sleep in a hammock tied between the Jeep roll cage and a tree.
Hammocks get really cold, so I line it with a HF moving blanket. They sell the large blankets and small blankets. Large blanket folded double inside the hammock and small moving blanket on the ground so I can stand without shoes on when I get up.

Yeah, if you pack a down bag, you need something under you to stay warm.
Down, like the hammock, compresses to nothing under your body weight.
Back when I was a teenager, there was a product called Ensolite specifically for this.
Closed-cell foam.
If you were really rugged, it came as thin as 1/4" and shortened to mid-thigh length.
Such specialty gear has gotten really expensive today.

 

[Fireball]

Thanks

I should note that this brand has two widths in the single tent-cots. This is the narrower 27.5" one and they also make a 31.5" one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FC5VVKV1?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1

 

[Ohiowrangler]

I had the single and it was confined. I have the double cot which with a velcro dog, he's happy, and he doesn't always sleep on me). I was interested if was less confining. Thanks again for taking the time to respond. This is a bad day for me. Ron

 

[47v6]

Did a dry run with the cot tent the other night. Very comfy:

Temp was in the low 50s and the camp blankets weren't warm enough with the well ventilated tent. I'll be bringing a sleeping bag ro the Rubicon instead.

Other than that it I really like it and slept well once I put on an extra layer of clothes under the blanket.

My buddy who's going on the trip is coming down next weekend and we'll do a fully packed dry run with two people and all gear in the Jeep.

I have spent a good deal of time.. uh out doors.. I get very cold sleeping out so, I never wear the same pants or shirt as I did all day. The sweat will wick away your heat. I also never wear cotton as a first layer, a silk or wool shirt and pants or both. Then I always wear wool over that. It keeps you warm even if wet and won’t burn like fleece. Fleece will melt on you and burn you bad, it can also trap moisture close to your skin. I always bring aand wear a hat. You loose a lot of heat from your head. A thermarest or similar sleeping pad will significantly work to keep the ground or air from stealing your heat. On a cot, you have to worry about the loft of your insulation crushing down, so closed cell foam like a thermarest or blow up like ridge rest is best ..

Been really poor at times in my life.

Once you get cold at 3am, there is no more sleep, you become a bit disoriented as you loose heat and it’s not a good time.

 

[timgr]

Not a backpacker like I used to be ... (worked for a climbing/backpacking store long ago)
However, the classic closed cell pad like Ridgerest would certainly keep you warm, either on a cot or on the ground.

https://cascadedesigns.com/products/ridgerest-classic-sleeping-pad

Not everyone can handle sleeping on the ground with just the foam pad.
The Boy Scout Field Book has some basic instructions about making your bed on the ground.
Kinda think the foam floor pads from HF would work fine for either a cot or on the ground, at very low cost.

https://www.harborfreight.com/4-piece-anti-fatigue-foam-mat-set-94635.html

Not strictly closed-cell, but close enough for casual use.
The specialized backpacking products cost more due both to marketing and their extreme low-weight priorities.
Unlike the moving blankets, the foam pads would be unaffected by water.

 

[sterlclan]

I have used the harbor freight ones for this exact purpose worked well but it wasn't freezing cold either.

 

[duffer]

Back when I was a teenager, there was a product called Ensolite specifically for this.
Closed-cell foam.

Yep, used one of those for years. Its remnants still exist behind the dash covering in my 3B where it has resided for the last 50 years. Therm-a-Rest put those out to pasture. For the last decade and a half, I have been using the neoair version but I didn't get much sleep on that last fall on my first backpack trip in several years. Going to try a cheapo Klymit version this summer, the actual cost of which is more than half a pound additional weight.

 

[Fireball]

I'm working on my big checklist for the Rubicon trip and am in the process of packing the basics into the Jeep.

For my own notes as much as anything, here is the junk currently packed into the Jeep. I've tried to cram as much stuff as possible under the seats to have room for camp gear/food in the back.

Spread around the Jeep

• Spare tire vertical behind passenger seat
• 2x Jerry cans on passenger rear fenderwell
• Fire extinguisher on roll bar behind driver
• Folding shovel on passenger side kick panel
• Spare fan belts under hood behind driver side headlight

Ammo can center console

• Head lamp for seeing things at night
• TP roll
• Kleenex
• Registration and insurance card
• Cigarette ligher USB charger + Micro USB and USB C charging cables
• First aid kit
• Compact binoculars
• Reading glasses

Spare parts bag that tucks in front of the spare tire

• Electric fuel pump
• Mechanical fuel pump
• Assorted hose
• Assorted hose clamps
• 2x driveshaft u-joints
• 2x front axle u-joints
• Points/condensor
• Random SAE nuts and bolts
• Many feet of electrical wire
• Fuses (including for alternator)
• 2x 27 spline drive plates
• 12x hub bolts
• hose clamps
• lug nuts
• 4x U-joint u-bolts
• 4x U-joint circlips
• 10 spline/27 spline U-joint yokes
• ARB hose repair kit
• 2x Leaf spring center bolts
• Assorted grommets and plugs
• Assorted kotter pins

Things packed under the seats

All of these bags are packed under the seats. The tan outer bags have easy access for things you need more often. The rest of the stuff is more effort to pull out from under the seats:

I forgot to include the jack and lug wrench in the above picture. It sits under the driver's seat next to the black/blue tool bag:

Driver side fast access tan bag next to seat

• Tire plug kit
• Tire pressure gauge
• Tire inflation hose
• 4x emergency valve stems
• Spare fuses

Driver side brown bag for long tools

• Large slotted screwdriver
• ½” breaker bar
• Handle extension for breaker bar
• Claw hammer

Driver’s side large black and blue tool bag (compartments numbered from bottom up)

Compartment 1

• ¼” SAE sockets
• ⅜” SAE sockets
• ½” SAE sockets
• Select Metric sockets
• ¼”, ⅜”. ½” extensions

Compartment 2

• ¼”, ⅜”, ½” Ratchets
• SAE combo wrench set - small sizes
• Pair of common SAE box end wrenches
• Torx bits

Compartment 3

• 2x Crescent wrenches
• SAE combo wrench set - large sizes
• Metric end wrenches - small sizes

Compartment 4

• Putty knife/scraper
• Flip type multi screwdriver
• Slotted 90° screw driver
• Phillips 90° screw driver
• Small slotted/phillips screwdriver
• Medium slotted screwdriver
• Phillips #2 screwdriver
• Triangle file
• Flat file
• Hack saw blade
• SAE allen wrench set
• Pick
• Cold chisel
• Punch
• Extendable magnet

Compartment 5

• Snap ring pliers with external/internal tips
• Wire strippers/crimpers
• Channel locks
• Needle nose pliers
• Diagonal cutters
• Vice grips

Passenger side fast access tan bag next to seat

• Wired winch controller
• 2x wireless winch controllers
• Wood hand saw
• Jerry can spout
• Jerry can wrench

Passenger side green recovery bag

• Winch hook
• 2x Tree savers
• 2x Recovery D-rings for rear
• Recovery snatch block ring
• 4x soft shackles

Passenger side green tool bag

• Fuse and crimp connector kit
• Multimeter
• Assorted zip ties
• Assorted wire
• Switch with relay harness
• Rags
• JB weld
• Teflon tape
• Gorilla tape
• Electrical tape
• Tube of silicon
• Jumper cables
• Scotch brite
• Wire brush

There is also a larger tote container in the back that will be partially filled with the following, but will still have a lot of room for camping supplies:

• 1 qt Power Steering Fluid
• 1qt Engine oil
• Brake fluid
• Gear oil
• Wood block for Jack
• Work gloves
• Trash bags
• Grease gun
• Grease gun mini tip
• spill kit
• Bungee cords
• Tie-down straps

 

[Rich M.]

I'm working on my big checklist for the Rubicon trip and am in the process of packing the basics into the Jeep.

For my own notes as much as anything, here is the junk currently packed into the Jeep. I've tried to cram as much stuff as possible under the seats to have room for camp gear/food in the back.

Spread around the Jeep

• Spare tire vertical behind passenger seat
• 2x Jerry cans on passenger rear fenderwell
• Fire extinguisher on roll bar behind driver
• Folding shovel on passenger side kick panel
• Spare fan belts under hood behind driver side headlight

Ammo can center console

• Head lamp for seeing things at night
• TP roll
• Kleenex
• Registration and insurance card
• Cigarette ligher USB charger + Micro USB and USB C charging cables
• First aid kit
• Compact binoculars
• Reading glasses

Spare parts bag that tucks in front of the spare tire

• Electric fuel pump
• Mechanical fuel pump
• Assorted hose
• Assorted hose clamps
• 2x driveshaft u-joints
• 2x front axle u-joints
• Points/condensor
• Random SAE nuts and bolts
• Many feet of electrical wire
• Fuses (including for alternator)
• 2x 27 spline drive plates
• 12x hub bolts
• hose clamps
• lug nuts
• 4x U-joint u-bolts
• 4x U-joint circlips
• 10 spline/27 spline U-joint yokes
• ARB hose repair kit
• 2x Leaf spring center bolts
• Assorted grommets and plugs
• Assorted kotter pins

Things packed under the seats

All of these bags are packed under the seats. The tan outer bags have easy access for things you need more often. The rest of the stuff is more effort to pull out from under the seats:

I forgot to include the jack and lug wrench in the above picture. It sits under the driver's seat next to the black/blue tool bag:

Driver side fast access tan bag next to seat

• Tire plug kit
• Tire pressure gauge
• Tire inflation hose
• 4x emergency valve stems
• Spare fuses

Driver side brown bag for long tools

• Large slotted screwdriver
• ½” breaker bar
• Handle extension for breaker bar
• Claw hammer

Driver’s side large black and blue tool bag (compartments numbered from bottom up)

Compartment 1

• ¼” SAE sockets
• ⅜” SAE sockets
• ½” SAE sockets
• Select Metric sockets
• ¼”, ⅜”. ½” extensions

Compartment 2

• ¼”, ⅜”, ½” Ratchets
• SAE combo wrench set - small sizes
• Pair of common SAE box end wrenches
• Torx bits

Compartment 3

• 2x Crescent wrenches
• SAE combo wrench set - large sizes
• Metric end wrenches - small sizes

Compartment 4

• Putty knife/scraper
• Flip type multi screwdriver
• Slotted 90° screw driver
• Phillips 90° screw driver
• Small slotted/phillips screwdriver
• Medium slotted screwdriver
• Phillips #2 screwdriver
• Triangle file
• Flat file
• Hack saw blade
• SAE allen wrench set
• Pick
• Cold chisel
• Punch
• Extendable magnet

Compartment 5

• Snap ring pliers with external/internal tips
• Wire strippers/crimpers
• Channel locks
• Needle nose pliers
• Diagonal cutters
• Vice grips

Passenger side fast access tan bag next to seat

• Wired winch controller
• 2x wireless winch controllers
• Wood hand saw
• Jerry can spout
• Jerry can wrench

Passenger side green recovery bag

• Winch hook
• 2x Tree savers
• 2x Recovery D-rings for rear
• Recovery snatch block ring
• 4x soft shackles

Passenger side green tool bag

• Fuse and crimp connector kit
• Multimeter
• Assorted zip ties
• Assorted wire
• Switch with relay harness
• Rags
• JB weld
• Teflon tape
• Gorilla tape
• Electrical tape
• Tube of silicon
• Jumper cables
• Scotch brite
• Wire brush

There is also a larger tote container in the back that will be partially filled with the following, but will still have a lot of room for camping supplies:

• 1 qt Power Steering Fluid
• 1qt Engine oil
• Brake fluid
• Gear oil
• Wood block for Jack
• Work gloves
• Trash bags
• Grease gun
• Grease gun mini tip
• spill kit
• Bungee cords
• Tie-down straps

Packs credit card...

 

[timsresort]

Really nice. I wish I was this organized. One thing I did was write it all down, put the list somewhere, even in your phone. Then, in a few years when you can't remember if you have it, or where it is, just check the list. Can I add a few items? Ok I will. Just a suggestion. Ubolts, cap and rotor, tie rod ends, belt(s), Pitman arm puller if you have PS. Ignition module if you have HEI. spindle nut socket.

 

[Dave Deyton]

I'm working on my big checklist for the Rubicon trip and am in the process of packing the basics into the Jeep.

For my own notes as much as anything, here is the junk currently packed into the Jeep. I've tried to cram as much stuff as possible under the seats to have room for camp gear/food in the back.

Spread around the Jeep

• Spare tire vertical behind passenger seat
• 2x Jerry cans on passenger rear fenderwell
• Fire extinguisher on roll bar behind driver
• Folding shovel on passenger side kick panel
• Spare fan belts under hood behind driver side headlight

Ammo can center console

• Head lamp for seeing things at night
• TP roll
• Kleenex
• Registration and insurance card
• Cigarette ligher USB charger + Micro USB and USB C charging cables
• First aid kit
• Compact binoculars
• Reading glasses

Spare parts bag that tucks in front of the spare tire

• Electric fuel pump
• Mechanical fuel pump
• Assorted hose
• Assorted hose clamps
• 2x driveshaft u-joints
• 2x front axle u-joints
• Points/condensor
• Random SAE nuts and bolts
• Many feet of electrical wire
• Fuses (including for alternator)
• 2x 27 spline drive plates
• 12x hub bolts
• hose clamps
• lug nuts
• 4x U-joint u-bolts
• 4x U-joint circlips
• 10 spline/27 spline U-joint yokes
• ARB hose repair kit
• 2x Leaf spring center bolts
• Assorted grommets and plugs
• Assorted kotter pins

Things packed under the seats

All of these bags are packed under the seats. The tan outer bags have easy access for things you need more often. The rest of the stuff is more effort to pull out from under the seats:

I forgot to include the jack and lug wrench in the above picture. It sits under the driver's seat next to the black/blue tool bag:

Driver side fast access tan bag next to seat

• Tire plug kit
• Tire pressure gauge
• Tire inflation hose
• 4x emergency valve stems
• Spare fuses

Driver side brown bag for long tools

• Large slotted screwdriver
• ½” breaker bar
• Handle extension for breaker bar
• Claw hammer

Driver’s side large black and blue tool bag (compartments numbered from bottom up)

Compartment 1

• ¼” SAE sockets
• ⅜” SAE sockets
• ½” SAE sockets
• Select Metric sockets
• ¼”, ⅜”. ½” extensions

Compartment 2

• ¼”, ⅜”, ½” Ratchets
• SAE combo wrench set - small sizes
• Pair of common SAE box end wrenches
• Torx bits

Compartment 3

• 2x Crescent wrenches
• SAE combo wrench set - large sizes
• Metric end wrenches - small sizes

Compartment 4

• Putty knife/scraper
• Flip type multi screwdriver
• Slotted 90° screw driver
• Phillips 90° screw driver
• Small slotted/phillips screwdriver
• Medium slotted screwdriver
• Phillips #2 screwdriver
• Triangle file
• Flat file
• Hack saw blade
• SAE allen wrench set
• Pick
• Cold chisel
• Punch
• Extendable magnet

Compartment 5

• Snap ring pliers with external/internal tips
• Wire strippers/crimpers
• Channel locks
• Needle nose pliers
• Diagonal cutters
• Vice grips

Passenger side fast access tan bag next to seat

• Wired winch controller
• 2x wireless winch controllers
• Wood hand saw
• Jerry can spout
• Jerry can wrench

Passenger side green recovery bag

• Winch hook
• 2x Tree savers
• 2x Recovery D-rings for rear
• Recovery snatch block ring
• 4x soft shackles

Passenger side green tool bag

• Fuse and crimp connector kit
• Multimeter
• Assorted zip ties
• Assorted wire
• Switch with relay harness
• Rags
• JB weld
• Teflon tape
• Gorilla tape
• Electrical tape
• Tube of silicon
• Jumper cables
• Scotch brite
• Wire brush

There is also a larger tote container in the back that will be partially filled with the following, but will still have a lot of room for camping supplies:

• 1 qt Power Steering Fluid
• 1qt Engine oil
• Brake fluid
• Gear oil
• Wood block for Jack
• Work gloves
• Trash bags
• Grease gun
• Grease gun mini tip
• spill kit
• Bungee cords
• Tie-down straps

That's a great list. Well equipped trail rig.
You should be well prepared.

Dave

 

[duffer]

Along the same line as your ARB line repair "kit" I carry a similar kit for general pressure line repair, be it brake line/clutch line, or fuel. That consists of 1/4" diameter, 3000 psi rated tube and an assortment of fittings.

 

[Fireball]

Really nice. I wish I was this organized. One thing I did was write it all down, put the list somewhere, even in your phone. Then, in a few years when you can't remember if you have it, or where it is, just check the list. Can I add a few items? Ok I will. Just a suggestion. Ubolts, cap and rotor, tie rod ends, belt(s), Pitman arm puller if you have PS. Ignition module if you have HEI. spindle nut socket.

I have a Google Doc of the list and plan on printing it out and putting it in the Jeep so I can find things.

As for additions:

• U-bolts - I don't have any spares, so I just ordered some from Sam.
• Cap/rotor - That was on my list to get, so I ordered cap, rotor, wires, and plugs from Rock Auto. I'll put the new stuff on the Jeep and put the old stuff in the spares kit.
• Tie rod ends - I have a left and a right and just now threw them in the spares bag.
• Belts - I've got spares zip-tied under the hood.
• Pitman arm puller - I think I can fit it.
• Ignition module. I've got Pertronix, but have the original points/condenser in the spares bag as backup.
• Spindle nut socket. Thanks for this reminder. I keep thinking about adding it and keep forgetting to actually do it. It's in the Jeep now.

Thanks for the additions!