Wilwood Hanging Pedals

Hey everyone
I'm trying to do a hanging pedal conversion in my 55 cj5 and having all sorts of issues. The clutch isn't really a problem but the brake pedal certainly is. I can't find a way to place the brake pedal without it either hitting the steering column, being moved too far towards the center of the jeep (off the flat part of the firewall and into the engine area) or being moved to the left side of the steering column. I'm using the Wilwood 260-4894 Master Cylinder and the Wilwood 340-1290 pedal. I've tackled this as a filler project until the snow melts and I can get back to the diesel swap but it's become ridiculous. I'm really at my wits end with this.

If someone has some images they could post of where they placed their Wilwood pedals from both under the dash and in the engine bay, I would really appreciate it. Also, any sort of measurements or advice on hanging Wilwood pedals is appreciated. I know other people have done this before so I thought it was do-able.

The images in this post show a CJ3A (Warlock's) but I hope to see a CJ5:
Started steering, now I need new brakes

Thanks in advance
Wayne.

 

Can we see pictures of your set up to see what we are working with?

 

Are you doing a steering conversion as well? One option that I think gets overlooked when people do steering and pedal conversions is the centerline of the steering column, pedals and seat. If changing both pedals and steering its not much more work to move everything to the left - as Jeep did starting in 72.

 

Thanks for the responses. I'm not planning on a steering upgrade just now. I'm in the middle of an engine swap and hanging pedal swap and together, this is enough. I just don't have the time for either of these, really.

Anyway, I think I've solved my own problem by placing the brake pedal as far right as I can and rotating it slightly counter-clockwise so the pedal arm doesn't quite touch the steering column. Later, I'll take some material off the left side of the pedal pad so there's no contact with the steering column. I'll try to upload some images to show what my situation is and how I've dealt with it. Right now,my images are too big to upload so I'll figure that out tonight.

Edit: attached are a few images showing the pedal/column problem.

Thanks for the help.
Wayne.

 

I am using this with my Wilwood pedals



Brand:Classic Performance

Manufacturer's Part Number:5564BB-O

Part Type:Master Cylinder Mounting Plates

Product Line:Classic Performance Brake Booster Brackets

Summit Racing Part Number:CLP-5564BB-O


Mounting Plate Material:Steel

Mounting Plate Finish:Zinc coated

Mounting Hardware Included:Yes

Quantity:Sold as a kit.

Notes:This kit moves the booster 2.0 in. toward the driver's side, and 1.75 in. up.

Dennis

 

This adapter also pushes my booster out far enough (clears valve covers etc) to provide space for the clutch master (somewhat behind the booster) without having to space the straight pedals farther apart than I wanted.
Should have them installed in a month or so
Dennis

my brake pedal - just to the right of the column.

moved column somewhat upward and to left, re-centered and moved back the seat with a fender well notch.

 

I placed my brake pedal on the left side of the column. In my case, the pedals are where you would normally find them comfortably placed. It's the steering column placement that's a little weird.

 

Just my 2 cents, but I like the brake pedal as close to the skinny pedal as practicable-just enough room so you don't accidentally hit both at the same time with boots on. The ability to easily get your foot on both is really handy in the rocks.

 

I like the fire chicken horn button.

I do agree with Duffer that having the pedals close is nice. From my track car days, I always heel/toe downshift when driving around. It's good to able to operate the brake and gas at the same time.

 

Thanks for the replies and suggestions. I also agree with Duffer that having the brake on the right side of the column, close to the gas pedal, is preferred. I recently got a Wilwood dual reservoir MC but of course it has mounting holes spaced even farther apart so my idea of going close to the firewall hum and "clocking" the MC slightly, won't work. Also, this won't allow me to add a booster in the future. Looks like I have to go with a factory set-up.

I tried to find a Roxor pedal assembly but that is not possible in Canada, at least not with any of the Roxor dealers in western Canada. I'll keep an eye on Craigslist and eBay.

Man, I've been wanting to do this conversion for years and I thought it'd have a lot fewer headaches than this. My Kubota swap is going smoother. Well, it's not actually in yet so I guess I shouldn't shoot my mouth off just yet. Haha.

 

Thanks Warloch. I'll be looking forward to seeing a pattern.

 

Hey all. Here's an update on my hanging pedals installation. After many attempts to make the Wilwood pedals work, I got a clutch and brake pedal assembly from a TJ. With a few minor modifications, it went in fairly easily. The biggest modification was that brake pedal arm had to be heated and bent to be on the right side of the steering column. Not too bad! Thanks for all your help. Moving right along to the Kubota/SM465/D18 install.

Edit; I tried to upload some images to proudly show off my success but that seems like it's going to be as difficult as the project itself. I uploaded some earlier but for some reason, I can't do in now. I'll try again later.