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For Sale Vintage Warn 3 Ring M2 Hubs $250/set ***both Sold

Discussion in 'Early CJ-5 and CJ-6 Classifieds' started by mickeykelley, Jul 10, 2019.

  1. Jul 10, 2019
    mickeykelley

    mickeykelley Well-Known Member

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    For sale, 2 sets of fully restored and tested Warn 3 ring locking hubs. These fit the axels that have the snap rings. I completely took these apart, cleaned, sanded down the outer aluminum body to remove as many of the 50-60 years worth of dings and scrapes as possible, replaced the 2 O-rings which include the correct beveled one that goes around the brass knob. They were then taped off and the recessed area of the rings were painted black like originally and the brass dial was painted as originally with red dots and black wording. Note that at some time in the past, someone had used pliars or whatever to turn them when stiff. I did a little work to remove some edges, but choose not to get aggressive with removing metal. They were then greased and reassembled. I installed them on my 1958 CJ5 to test to make sure they engaged and disengaged correctly. The brass knobs now easily turn from Free to Locked and back. I choose NOT to clear coat them but you could easily do that. They come with a new Warn brand gasket between two halves of the body. I have attached pics of what they looked like when I got the batches. They were nasty and most did not turn freely.

    Typical batch before:
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    After (set 1):

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    After (set 2):
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  2. Jul 10, 2019
    wheelie

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    Nice job. These look great.

    Where did you find the beveled O rings? Warn still supply them?
     
  3. Jul 10, 2019
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    Might be interested in a set. Are you including polished bolts and bolt retainers?
     
  4. Jul 10, 2019
    Cap-n-Cray

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    What do you charge if I send you mine...
     
  5. Jul 10, 2019
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    I like them, but they won't match the rest of my Jeep. :D
     
  6. Jul 10, 2019
    mickeykelley

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    No Warn isn't. The guy (Jessie I think) at 4x4 Torq King custom made them. No idea if he still has or not.
     
  7. Jul 10, 2019
    mickeykelley

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    No bolts or locks. The locks are $18 at Walcks Lock Out Hub Lock Washer Kit Warn Hub Only As you can see from the pics, apparently some people just used lock washers instead of the proper one, thus leaving some marks in the housings. I tried to remove some of the marks, but short of having the proper spinning sander, I was only able to do so much. The bolts that came with the originals were mostly trash, bent, bad threads, etc. some were even the wrong thread. Go figure. I needed 12 for mine and a bunch of them were the shorter ones for the factory hubs so no idea why they were included. I may have a couple but not enough to for a set.
     
  8. Jul 10, 2019
    mickeykelley

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    I had not planned on doing it as a service. I started off with many more than I ended up with. Some were so full of water, rust, dirt, muck, etc., that they became parts. After cleaning up one set, the housing was so badly pitted it looked almost like it had set in acid. So the first thing would be yours condition, needed parts if any, and level of restoration you are expecting. I started with this as simply a learning experience so I got better the further I went. I learned how to get thru the problems areas as I went. It's a much faster process now, but still multiple hours. I wanted to get my learning curve down before I did my final set for my much nicer Wilbur Wagon project, which is still waiting. So it depends on if Jessie is still selling the O-rings and what condition yours are in. Send me some pics to my email mickey@dilloware.com.
     
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  9. Jul 10, 2019
    Nebr1957CJ5

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    Those look awesome man, great work
     
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  10. Jul 11, 2019
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    Absolutely beautiful job, Mickey. Well done!!
     
  11. Jul 14, 2019
    mickeykelley

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    Set 1 has sold.
     
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  12. Jul 14, 2019
    maurywhurt

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    Having restored a set of these hubs myself, and knowing how much work goes into getting them to look good and work well again, I think the price Mickey's asking is very reasonable.
     
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  13. Jul 14, 2019
    mickeykelley

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    I am surprised when I think back on the time spent. Once apart, cleaned, media blasted, sanded, painted, etc, the putting back together really only takes maybe 15 minutes once you've been there and know what to do. ONCE YOU KNOW. But the cleaning alone probably took 30 minutes alone to avoid ruining my media in the blaster. Then the sanding to remove old scaring adds up, let alone the multiple steps in masking and painting.
     
  14. Jul 14, 2019
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    Beautiful. I have these on my 65 but not that nice. So the bodies were sanded to this finish?
     
  15. Jul 14, 2019
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    Mine look like this. I would like them to look like yours. IMG_20170507_105841047.jpg
     
  16. Jul 14, 2019
    mickeykelley

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    Yes sanded down. Lots of work buy hand. Then I learned how to use my bench belt sander and spin them around a dowl but it takes time and paying attention to detail or you could get a flat spot in a hurry. IT can get spinning really fast which doesn't help, so it's a let it spin to keep circular but using thumb to put drag on it so it really sands. Damn near lost a finger tip til I got a handle on it, so don't do this at home. I am a trained professional, at least now after a few sore fingers and 4 sets of hubs.
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  17. Aug 1, 2019
    mickeykelley

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    Bump for set 2 still available.
     
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    Greevesman

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    How did you do the lettering?
     
  19. Sep 3, 2019
    mickeykelley

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    That's where the artistry starts. I tried a number of attempts and undid them as I didn't like the results. I tried paint brushing testors, masking off and spraying, painting then sanding, etc. So you will need to play to see what you like. I spent WAY too much time on playing for what I'm selling them for. My best results were the same thing I did restoring the red lettering on the heater knobs. I sprayed liberally so it gets in the grooves of the letters and fills them up. Let it sit awhile to not be so runny. Then using a T shirt type material wrapped tightly over my finger and/or thumb, dipped in slightly mineral spirits, wipe off the flat area, thus leaving paint in the recess. Don't get too agressive or in a big hurry. Get the bulk off sooner, then come back a while later and do again to clean up more. The idea is patience and not getting too much mineral spirits, thus deluding the paint and gloss. Trust me, it's an art form. I spent hours. The aluminum hubs I masked off most it to avoid cleaning up in the pits. The black rings I tried hand painting and was not happy with it. Eventually I masked the puck and used exacto knife to cut out the rings, the sprayed. That took way too much time. But next time, I would just spray the outer puck and when's it's cured, put it thru the sander as pictured above to remove the paint and 'polish' the high areas. I think it would be faster and more effective. When I do my show set for my wagon, that's what I will do.
     
  20. Sep 3, 2019
    mickeykelley

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    I do still have one set available.
     

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