1. Registration trouble? Please use the "Contact Us" link at the bottom right corner of the page and your issue will be resolved.
    Dismiss Notice

This is why i stopped working on my Jeep

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by mb82, May 5, 2005.

  1. May 5, 2005
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

    Charlottesville Va
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2003
    Messages:
    2,706
    so i was cruisin' Novak this morning trying to find out which clutch i am supposed to use with my smallblock V-6 engine ford t-18 tranny swap. well after some close reading i found something i had missed way back when. according to them you cant run the V-8 flywheel with the V-6. Please tell me this is not true and a mistake on their part. if it is true then im out for tellico, a flywheel will put me over on a budget that is really close for tellico anyway.
     
  2. May 5, 2005
    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

    Athens, GA
    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2003
    Messages:
    1,381
    I have the flywheel on my 4.3 that I just pulled. If you need it to get to tellico I'll pack it up and get it sent to you and we'll work out the $$ later.
     
  3. May 5, 2005
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

    Lexington, South...
    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2002
    Messages:
    4,585
    If he is useing the Buick V6, the chevy one wont work :( If you are using a 231 or 252 buick v6 then you can get a 225 V6 flywheel and rebalance it. You will need to bring the harmonic balancer adn the flexplate to balance the 225 flywheel from. But you cant use the V8 flywheel unfortuantely. If you need any parts for the clutch let me know, i have teh brand new clutch disc laying around that will work for it.
     
  4. May 5, 2005
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

    Charlottesville Va
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2003
    Messages:
    2,706
    nope chevy, not Buick, V-6 the good old 229 CI. jason there is no way my CJ could be finished for tellico even if i worked nonstop from now till when i leave. the only thing i have to do to it is put everything back together.

    jason how much do you want for the flywheel? i think i might just take you up on it.
     
  5. May 5, 2005
    Mudweiserjeep

    Mudweiserjeep JEEP: Bouncy and Fun

    tipp city, ohio
    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2004
    Messages:
    718
    I had my 225 flywheel balanced for my EF 231. Cost $50
     
  6. May 5, 2005
    scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

    Seattle Wa.
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2002
    Messages:
    2,362
    I would try the V-8 flywheel. I think it should be the same part as the v-6. I could be wrong. If it doesn't fit you could get one from a 79' - 80' Chevy El Cameno. 81' was the last year for a manual trans in an El Cameno. FYI.

    (Thinking) Do I have a V-8 flywheel on my V-6? :?
     
  7. May 5, 2005
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

    Charlottesville Va
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2003
    Messages:
    2,706
    they say there is a balance issue when running a V-8 flywheel on a V-6 which i would understand but since i have never seen chevy v-6 flywheel i cant say that there is any difference.
     
  8. May 5, 2005
    scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

    Seattle Wa.
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2002
    Messages:
    2,362
    I supose I could look on my flywheel and see if it has some sort of weight on it.
     
  9. May 5, 2005
    razorsedge

    razorsedge jeeppaul

    Middleburg, FL
    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2005
    Messages:
    27
    better make sure about the balancing....I installed a V8 in my jeep and was having the engine balancing done and took my I6 flywheel and the guy did a lot of metal removal for the balancing.
     
  10. May 6, 2005
    timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    Medford Mass USA
    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2003
    Messages:
    23,596
    This isn't a question of fit. Some engines have internal or "zero" balance, and their rotating assemblies are entirely balanced by just the crankshaft counterweights. Other engines, even within the same family of engines, are externally or "detroit" balanced, using extra off-center weight on the flywheel or crank pulley in combination with the crankshaft counterweights. It's also possible that both the V8 and V6 are externally balanced, but with a different amount of weight.

    Should be obvious if you compare a V8 and V6 flywheel.
     
  11. May 6, 2005
    scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

    Seattle Wa.
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2002
    Messages:
    2,362
    The flywheel on my V-6 doesn't have any weights on it. All that I can see is four drill holes on one side. Can you take a picture of it? Mine is on the motor so it's hard to see all of it without turning the motor over.

    Come to think of it. My brother is running my marine V-6 flywheel on his V-8. I would have used it but it is set up to use a 11" clutch disk. At the time, the 11" clutch wouldn't fit with a cable style bellhousing I was using.
     
  12. May 6, 2005
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

    Charlottesville Va
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2003
    Messages:
    2,706
    well after reading some more late last night i found that it is only the '85 and later motors that are externally balanced. so now i just need to find out if my motor is pre '85( i dont think so because it has a TBI intake) or post '85 also pre-85 was oddfire but since i did not get a distributer when i got my motor i cant tell if it is even or oddfire, stupid question and i know it has been covered MANY times before but can you tell by any other way then just the distributer?

    i have learned a new lesson after this whole motor deal. NEVER buy a motor unless you are pulling it from the car yourself or have a lot of trust in the person you are buying it from.
     
  13. May 6, 2005
    Mudweiserjeep

    Mudweiserjeep JEEP: Bouncy and Fun

    tipp city, ohio
    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2004
    Messages:
    718
    would you be able to tell EF or OF by the engine stampings (#)?
    I don't know
     
  14. May 6, 2005
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

    Charlottesville Va
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2003
    Messages:
    2,706
    yeh im sure you can, i just need to do more research.
     
  15. May 6, 2005
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    Perth, WA
    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2002
    Messages:
    9,221
    http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/engines/225/castingNumbers.shtml
     
  16. May 6, 2005
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

    Charlottesville Va
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2003
    Messages:
    2,706
    sparky thanks but thats for the Buick motor and i have a chevy motor( distributer in the back)
     
  17. May 6, 2005
    scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

    Seattle Wa.
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2002
    Messages:
    2,362
    There isn't much info. on the Chevy V-6s. There was an odd, semi even, and even fire motor. The only way I know of is to look at the crank shaft. I was told (I could be wrong.) that all marine motors were odd fire engines. The cars had semi even and even fire motors. I've never have heard about the pre 85' thing. I do know that after 80' the distributor is computerized.
     
  18. May 6, 2005
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

    Charlottesville Va
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2003
    Messages:
    2,706
    i guess i will check the crank tonight when i put the oil pump in and all that fun stuff.
     
  19. May 6, 2005
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    Perth, WA
    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2002
    Messages:
    9,221
    Oh, what are you doing here then? R)

    I remember reading that last nite now. :oops:
     
  20. May 6, 2005
    scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

    Seattle Wa.
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2002
    Messages:
    2,362
New Posts