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Steering Bellcrank Mod with Paired Tapered Roller Bearings

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by maurywhurt, Apr 11, 2016.

  1. Apr 11, 2016
    maurywhurt

    maurywhurt Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

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    If you have a problem with your jeep's bellcrank bearings wearing and affecting the steering, this may be a modification worth considering.

    Lawrence Elliott has developed a great solution to this problem. Lawrence figured out that that certain stock bellcranks could be machined to accept a particular set of paired tapered roller bearings (automotive wheel bearings), complete with hardened outer races / cups and teflon seals. This assembly replaces the original bellcrank bearing setup, and a new bearing shaft sized for the tapered roller bearings and fitted with a pin style adjustment replaces the stock shaft. As you can see in the pics below, the final product looks simple and slick. I understand that he can make this modification to bellcranks for the CJ3B up through the early CJ5 / 6, and possibly some other jeep models as well.

    When I spoke with Lawrence, he indicated that the cost of the labor and new parts (not including the bellcrank, which needs to be new or NOS, and furnished by the owner) is around $250. If you're interested in possibly having him build one for your jeep, give him a call at 828-287-5275.

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  2. Aug 16, 2018
    tripilio

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    Hi, does anyone knows the part number of the tapered bearings for the bell crank mod? Thanks!
     
  3. Aug 16, 2018
    maurywhurt

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    1957Willys

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    Wow wish I knew about this conversion before I bought a bronze bushing kit for mine.
     
  5. Aug 16, 2018
    tripilio

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    Thanks a lot, Maury! I agree with you, 1957willys, I saw the mod after I got the repair kit.
    Maury, I am a mechanic with a shop that fortunately has machining capabilities, and I can operate in half a decent way a lathe and a milling machine. I'm right now in the process of rebuilding/modifying my Ross steering box. I will try to post some pics.
    Thanks again!
     
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    tripilio

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    Maaan, my typing sucks! But I hate autocorrect. I will pay more attention in the future texts! Sorry!
     
  7. Aug 16, 2018
    tripilio

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    Any idea why two different bearings? Shouldn't it be symmetrical the set up? Just asking...
     
  8. Aug 16, 2018
    Mcruff

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    EC15441C-85AF-4732-BEBE-E9862DDFA43D.jpeg Here ya go!
     
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  9. Aug 16, 2018
    Mcruff

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    1 number is for the seat the other is the bearing itself.
     
  10. Aug 16, 2018
    tripilio

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    Thanks! I usually look those up in mcmaster.com and one part number includes both rollers and out race, hence my confusion.
     
  11. Aug 20, 2018
    tripilio

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    Does anyone knows if tapered rollers are needed for this application? It looks to me the load is mostly radial, not a lot of thrust. Were tapered bearing used due to mechanical requirements (needed) or just because is what was available at the time (I've done that sooo much!). Thanks!
     
  12. Aug 20, 2018
    colojeepguy

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    Tapered bearings allow you to set the preload easily.
     
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    Mcruff

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    Any side load using standard bearings will be multiplied several times adding slop to the system. It is the only reason to used tapered bearings to eleminate all movement.
     
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    tripilio

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    Thanks! I just have access to needle rollers that are 7/8 ID, same as my pin and I thought I could give it a try using one on each end. Tapered bearing it is, then!
     
  15. Aug 22, 2018
    tripilio

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    Are those brown disks plastic washers or oil seals? And if they are, does anyone have a part number? Thanks!
     
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    tripilio

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    I must be blind...did not find them.:study:
     
  18. Aug 22, 2018
    maurywhurt

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    Those are grease seals custom turned to fit the specific application, so they wouldn't be stock items you could order. They were made from either nylon or teflon, as I recall. Mcruff may be able to help you further with that.
     
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    jpflat2a

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    Anyways, it uses 2 tapered roller bearings with rubber seals attached to the cones: Timken LM11949L. The number is still good.

    DISCLAIMER: These are part numbers off of cones and rollers that were used on bellcranks that were commercially produced in the '60s and '70s.
    Don't know what others are using for their units or modifications.
     
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