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SSDutch - a 1964 CJ6

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Boyink, Apr 5, 2007.

  1. Mar 26, 2008
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    She'sa fit. Very simple once I drilled out the old rivets. Drill a new hole and mount. Looks way beefier than the original.

    FYI - this is a pedal pivot from a military Jeep - (M38A1 I assume Steve?).

    Should be well on my way to nice slop-free clutch and brake pedals now.
     
  2. Apr 7, 2008
    Boyink

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    Water tank installed and tested:
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    The "RV water fill as output connection" isn't going to work - it leaks as the pressure is from the wrong direction. We had to look a bit but finally found a surface-mount garden hose connection at the boating supply store - but they only had the $60 piece and not the $20 piece that the website also showed, so it's on order now.

    Otherwise it looks like it will work well, the pump will probably be able to empty the tank in less than two minutes. It's a nice quiet pump though -thanks again Steve!

    Also realized I forgot to tape off a stripe on the tank for checking the water level..gonna be guesswork now...:rofl::rofl:
     
  3. Apr 8, 2008
    bkd

    bkd Moderator Supreme Staff Member 2022 Sponsor

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    Looks good Mike.....a little acetone on a rag and the end of your finger should get you the line you need w/o much trouble...seems like it would be worth it :beer:
    Jim S.
     
  4. Apr 8, 2008
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks Jim...I scraped some off, re-taped, and re-painted and have a line now.

    I was done and all proud of myself until I sat down and realized I put it on the inside of the tank - so it wouldn't be as visible from outside of the Jeep.

    Or....


    From where you stand while filling the tank.....:rofl::rofl:


    R)R)
     
  5. Apr 9, 2008
    jeepboy

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    Wow man! You do great work. I'm "in the process of getting started" on my 5 if that makes sense, but as you know just "getting started" IS a process. Anyhow, I like many of your ideas although I don't think I'm quite committed enough to do the water tank thing. I do like it though. I'm also glad to see some gaps in between your posts. I was beginning to think this WAS your job!

    It sounds like many of ya'll live close to each other. Too cool. Keep up the great work.

    Matt
     
  6. Apr 9, 2008
    Boyink

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    Thanks for the comments. Getting started can be tough - just deciding what to do first and how/if you can keep the thing drivable while you do it.

    Yea - the water tank thing is a bit over the edge and has taken longer than I thought it would. I also wouldn't do it in a CJ5 where that storage space is so valuable.

    Still - I love finding ways to use the different body features so it still looks like there's a purpose for it, and having something different than the other old Jeeps out there.

    Worst case is I just built the most expensive squirt gun I've ever owned..;) But realistically I probably only have $100 into the H20 setup (mostly thanks to the donated water pump).

    I'm considering some overnight or weekend rustic camping trips with my son this summer - just roughing it in the national forest. If that happens then this will get well-used, I should think.
     
  7. Apr 9, 2008
    Hawkes

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    You're gonna drive it? R) Just kidding Mike, looks good. You have a lot more patience than me.
     
  8. Apr 9, 2008
    Boyink

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    It IS setup for flat-towing....R)
     
  9. Apr 9, 2008
    jeepboy

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    No doubt that will come in quite useful. If I had it, I would use it, I just don't have the patience. It's pretty cool though. Of course, if I bust a radiator hose, I'd be wishin for that thing... I guess I'll revisit your "how to" post at that point.:oops:

    You are right about deciding what to do specifically. I've just got my 5 down to the chassis and the body is going to storage. After taking the body apart, I'm even more pleased with it's condition and rust free-ness. The chassis is in great shape although the PO's did some creative "hole making" for something near the rear of the front springs. No prob though, I'm gonna fill and box it anyway, but it's very straight and rust free. Nonetheless, a daunting task! Some of my ideas I'll post as I build but I'm thinking I'll use the underseat area for an auxiliary air reservoir, compressor and hose reel. As I was studying the body and it's few "cavities", I think there is a ton of room for tools and equipment, even in my little 5. I have to be honest though, I'm thinking of stretching it some.

    You put the GM 4.3 liter in right? That looks like a good fit. Assuming you did the conversion, I'm sure you did your homework on the best motor for the application. How did that compare to say... a Chevy small block install price-wise? I know there are plenty of conversion parts available to make it relatively simple and, I'd think, very similar to the 4.3 since that seems to be a 350 V8 minus the front 2 cylinders.

    I'm asking because one objective to my build is simplicity to work on; aka- know how and quality parts availability and the small block chevy is just that.
     
  10. Apr 9, 2008
    Boyink

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    Actually I bought it with the 4.3 done - it was one of the selling points for me. I had already started a '58 CJ6 with the intent of doing the 4.3/700R4 conversion.

    I'd think price would be about the same for a small block, however I just like V6's in Jeeps as they just look right and fit better. It has plenty of power for me - and I'll take any better fuel mileage I can get these days when looking at $4/gallon prices this summer.

    The big draw for me was the availability of 4.3's with the simple TBI fuel injection. The PO has it setup with a carb, but I have all the original FI parts to go back on plus a painless wiring harness.

    Once I get it back on the road I'll probably get all the FI parts out and start cleaning them up and painting them. I'll probably hold off on the actual install until next winter though -- it's been 2 years since I've driven the Jeep and I want to enjoy it this summer.

    And - I can work on the exterior paint while keeping it driveable...;)
     
  11. Apr 10, 2008
    unelemented

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    Cation stupid question ahead


    Can you get injection for a F-Head ;)

    The water tanbk looks like a good idea and ive seen more then once where that would be very helpful
     
  12. Apr 12, 2008
    Boyink

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    Wa-hooo! Finally got this project wrapped up:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL6LYYzr-FA

    Pressure is great - I'd say I'm able to throw water 25 - 30' with the gun on "Jet".

    Total time from full (3 gallon) tank to spitt'n and sputter'n with totally open hose: 1:05...R)

    Will have to learn to conserve....
     
  13. Apr 12, 2008
    Jeepman252

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    Cool vid Mike :beer:

    That may just come in handy some day...:)
     
  14. Apr 12, 2008
    Fnord5

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    Looks like you could fit a little bit bigger tank under the seat, maybe another gallon or so.
    Pretty neat though, what was the inspiration for the idea?
     
  15. Apr 12, 2008
    Boyink

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    Possibly but you're limited to the size of tanks available on the market, and I'm limited by the space available under the rollcage. I'm not sure I could have gotten the whole works under there with the tank any bigger in any one direction. As it is I had to put the tank under the cage first, then slide the frame and pump under, then drop the tank in. As it sits it's too high to just slide under the cage.

    It all started with just wondering what I could use the inset in the body from the original gas fill for - in same theme as this use for the snorkel cutout:

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    And this use for the spot where the original drawbar/pintle supports ran:
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  16. Apr 12, 2008
    Chris Insull

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    That H2O tank is a great set-up! Sure could have used the shower feature when my kids were young and we were camping/ wheeling in the Cali deserts...
     
  17. Apr 12, 2008
    Fnord5

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    I like the snorkel one! I wonder what unused areas "my" 74 has that could do something like that.
    Onboard air would be awesome to have.
     
  18. Apr 14, 2008
    jpflat2a

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    Mike
    to help conserve water, you might try switching to a kitchen sink type hose/dish sprayer set-up, rather than the garden hose variety. It only uses a 1/4" diameter hose I believe; you will have the same pressure coming out of a smaller hose and even smaller jets on the nozzle, put plenty of water for your use.
    It's what we use on our Jeep trailer water tanks, and they work well.
    just a thought..
     
  19. Apr 15, 2008
    Boyink

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    Thanks Jim -

    This nozzle has a flow control on it - I'll see how that goes. W/o knowing exactly what we'll use it for I'm not sure exactly how to set it up.
     
  20. Apr 15, 2008
    Chuck

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    Well done! :beer:
     
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