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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by plastikosmd, Nov 29, 2019.

  1. Nov 29, 2019
    plastikosmd

    plastikosmd New Member

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    Or at least I wish I could. I was able to purchase Hey set of steel hinge retainers for my doors however the top mount is incorrect. It is likely for a different style. Does anybody have photographs of actually what I need?
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    Bottom is correct, top, the amount is incorrect and too high on the windshield
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    A close-up of the problem. It appears the amount needs to be in and around where are the mirror mounts
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    Thank you and let me know if you actually have a set of top hinges. I can fabricate something for rework the current set of hinges if needed but would prefer original
     
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    Twin2

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    move upper hinge on door
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    plastikosmd

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    I thought about moving that would upward but I wanted to make sure I wasn’t going to re-drill through the panel and do something wrong

    I do like the hinge placement on my current door and respect to it not being on the window post/upright.

    Was there some other style of upper socket that bolted in place of the mirror?

    Thank you for the picture. Any other pictures are welcome.
     
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    Glenn

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    Aren't the hinge haves on the door reversed on yours? The raised rib reinforcement should be on the outside.
     
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    Walt Couch

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    It's a diff hinge piece. The pin on the door piece has to point down or you wouldn't be able to lift the door off.
     
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    jpflat2a

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    They could be on backwards, which would explain the notching we see at the window.
    The hinges are left/right specific.
    I'd look at the other side too.
    Maybe all he could find to work at the time.
     
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    plastikosmd

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    I guess that’s possible but they would also that need to be swapped opposite side to opposite side to get the pins to match up correctly. There are no other drill holes in the door

    If everyone is in agreement that there was no other hinge type of set up that bolted in a different place other than high up on the door and higher up on the windshield I will make the swap happen

    on a separate note, I cannot open many of the images on the link provided twin ( thank you)
    I am logged in. Do I need to be a contributor maybe or something?
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    plastikosmd

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    Here’s a picture of the tag inside the top
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    Walt Couch

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    I guess that’s possible but they would also that need to be swapped opposite side to opposite side to get the pins to match up correctly.

    This. Also what jpflat2a said that they are l/r specific.
     
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    Glenn

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    Definitely! What I meant though was it looks to me like they are on the wrong doors, need to be swapped side to side as mentioned. And raised, the nuts aren't even accessible....behind the door panels?
     
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    Glenn

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    Also, just like on any door the upper and lower pins have to line up perfectly vertical for the door to open correctly, if at all.
     
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    plastikosmd

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    Nuts are accessible. It looks like he added some component of weatherstripping that would also have to come off. Actually kind of like what he added in regards to possibly sealing the door up a little bit

    Based on the notching in it it’s possible this may have been installed upside down also?
    ( Note the notch at the top left corner of the door in the piece that holds some form of weatherstripping)
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    plastikosmd

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    Options include at this point deconstruct the doors and drill and fill and use the factory bracket mounting’s or make a new bracket/socket. I may just forge one for the fun of it as I have some leftover steel and then will make a decision
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    Glenn

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    As Walt noted both pins have to point down, the doors are designed to be easily lifted up and off.
     
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    I have a set of uppers that I think look different....I wont be able to check them out till tomorrow but I will take some pics and post
     
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    Glenn

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    That part is for a soft top, it doesn't go with the hard top. That's the upper door channel for the soft door to slide into/attach to. No wonder yours doesn't line up.
     
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    Glenn

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    Someone did a weird installation on those doors.
     
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    Glenn

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    Is that body filler poked through and sagging down through the probably original and correct holes several inches above the 2 visible nuts?
     
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    Glenn

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    It's easy to understand the confusion when coming into possession of something that isn't correct and trying to make it fit as is. Do you see the difference in the hinge placement when looking at your door in comparison to what Ron's door has?
     

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