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Replacement V6 head bolts

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Project71-5, Jan 20, 2013.

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  1. Jan 20, 2013
    Project71-5

    Project71-5 BACON

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    Where can I find replacement head bolts for the :v6:? Don't need ARP or anything special unless they are all that is available.
     
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    DanStew

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    Kenne Bell?
     
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    Project71-5

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    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    I used ARP the last time. By the time I could get anything else, it just was not worth the difference.
     
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    Project71-5

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    Chuck,

    Do you have the part number of the ARP kit that you used?

    I just spoke with ARP on the phone and they do no make head bolts for the 225 V6. They have a kit for 77-85 V6's but the lengths are wrong according to the tech.
     
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    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    Looked through the list and it's not there. I took the old ones in and a guy at my flaps (gear head too) measured them up and gave me 3 or 4 packages that made up the ones I used. I think I had 2 extras if that helps... probably doesn't.

    Have you tried TA Performance? They would know the cross ref if anyone now days.
     
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    Project71-5

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    Thats what I'd like to do but all the parts stores around here don't stock head bolts.

    I will call TA Performance in the morning and see what they say. If I could find a page or chart thats lists the lengths of the ARP bolts it would be really helpful.
     
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    grannyscj

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    I purchased the headbolts.com kit and it is correct. ARP bolts, washers, and lube in the box.
     
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    Project71-5

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    This is the best news I've heard all day! :) NAPA has no listing, neither does Parts City, or Autozone. Thought I was gonna have to find a used set somewhere...

    The Headbolts.com website is just a bit dated looking, sometimes I'm easily scared off by little things like that. Gonna place an order now though. Thanks!
     
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    Joe,question why do you need new bolts?
     
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    Project71-5

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    I started to bolt on one of the heads last night. Following the proper torque sequence in the FSM, I started torquing them at 20, then 40, then 60, and was going to finish at 75. When I started to tighten the first bolt to 75 ft-lbs something didn't seem right. The wrench never clicked when it "should" have and things didn't seem to be getting any tighter. I stopped there for fear of snapping the bolt and figured that new bolts are cheap insurance in the grand scheme of things.
     
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    Dandy

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    Thanks,something for all of us to watch for.
     
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    Project71-5

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    Also the bolt in question is slightly longer than the other bolts which tells me it was starting to stretch.
     
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    Warloch

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    Stretch and Time are the biggest reasons to swap them out. The more a motor is taken down and rebuilt, the more likely you need to swap the bolts out. I don't have the fancy test systems, but a measurement and gut is what I use.

    Glad to see they worked out on the ARP. Good reference for the info - post the ARP part number please :)
     
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    Project71-5

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    I will definitely post the part number when they arrive.

    I placed the order with Headbolts.com last night around 7. I had an email at 8 this morning saying they shipped via USPS flat rate. So far so good!
     
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    grannyscj

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    it's not an arp number. It's a headbolt.com number.
     
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    Warloch

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    I was hoping it was like the pack made for me years ago, just a group of ARP parts that make up the kit and a list of those would help find them other places.
     
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    grannyscj

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    No list or ARP part numbers. Sorry, they are exactly the same size as originals, at least eye balled.
     
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    Project71-5

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    As the saying goes "Never judge a book (or website) by its cover. The bolts arrived today.

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    Length comparison. The old bolts are on the right. The new bolts with washers are on the left. The new bolts are about 1/8" shorter but I think they will work just fine :) And the dumb question is, do the washers even need to be used with the flange head bolts?

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    grannyscj

    grannyscj Headed to the Yukon

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    The bolts are exactly the same. The washers make the difference. I haven't come to a decision on that one myself yet either.
     
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