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No U-Haul - Now Need Towbar

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by beeser, Oct 28, 2004.

  1. Oct 28, 2004
    beeser

    beeser Member

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    I had planned to attend the Riverside meet a few weeks ago but U-Haul decided at the last minute not to rent me the trailer that I reserved a week earlier. According to U-Haul, my V6 Tacoma is not large enough to tow a trailer and a Jeep combined. They also wouldn't let me use one of their car carriers that cradles one axle.

    So, it looks like I'll need to buy a towbar if I want to tow my Jeep anywhere. Any suggestions on which one to buy? Also, I would like to get a connection to the bumper that doesn't require drilling new holes. Any suggestions on that would be appreciated too.
     
  2. Oct 28, 2004
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I run the Tomken tow-bar shackles and really like them. They drop the attach point a couple inches, and keep me from banging my shins the old "L" brackets I used to have.

    Their towbars might be worth a look too:

    http://www.tomken.com/

    FWIW I've used U-Hauls website as an example of what *not* to do on the web. They try to map all known vehicles to each other and tell you what can tow what. Silly.
     
  3. Oct 28, 2004
    vanguard

    vanguard

    Sounds like a smittybuilt is in order. Bolts around the bumper. I like Boyink's suggestion too.

    Here's the smitty on betsy.

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Oct 28, 2004
    ljspop

    ljspop Lurking Bronco Dude

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    Ya know - I probably wouldn't complain about that picture being so big if it weren't for the ugly guy in the background.
     
  5. Oct 28, 2004
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Yea, for somebody thats a moderator/enforcer and computer geek, you'd think they could have resized the picture so it didn't stretch my poor monitor so bad!:D
     
  6. Oct 28, 2004
    vanguard

    vanguard

    Wanted the detail for beeser! Sorry about including Bob. R)
     
  7. Oct 28, 2004
    scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

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    Ran into the same problem while trying too rent a tow dolly. They said I needed a 3/4 ton truck. All as I wanted it for was to haul a car body that was mounted to its frame. After alot of arguing I was able to rent it. I found out later my S-10 is a 3/4 ton. It has the heavy duty springs for the camper package.
     
  8. Oct 28, 2004
    sternbal

    sternbal Member

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    When I was towing my CJ back from TX, I originally was going to put it on a trailer or dolly from U-Haul. They asked what I was going to be towing, I told them a 74 CJ5. They were stumped because it wasn't in their books. I've learned that it is usually better to just make stuff up when dealing with them. Tell them what they "need" to hear.
     
  9. Oct 28, 2004
    craig66cj

    craig66cj New Member

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    I agree. Tell them what they need to hear.

    I recently towed my 5500 pound suburban with a dead fuel pump over 100 miles on a u-haul dolly behind a V6 mercury mountaineer. This is not something I would recommend doing on a long term basis but a $39.95 dolly rental was much better that a $2 per mile tow truck!

    Just take it slow and easy and you'll be fine.
     
  10. Oct 28, 2004
    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    Good golly!!!!!!!!

    You choked my fat pipe!
     
  11. Oct 28, 2004
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Nothing like a life-sized illustration...;)
     
  12. Oct 28, 2004
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I was thinking about wallpapering my bathroom with that, when my dialup is done downloading it next month :D
     
  13. Oct 28, 2004
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    R) R)
     
  14. Oct 30, 2004
    willysnut

    willysnut Banned

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    That's exactly why they want to know- think liability-
    I would have my buddy with a 3/4 ton truck go with me to pick it up. I've seen some very dangerous towing setups.
    Above all use safety chains to keep the load from ruining/ending someone elses life when the unexpected happens. Remember Mr. Murphy and his laws!!
     
  15. Oct 30, 2004
    craig66cj

    craig66cj New Member

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    I agree, this was not an ideal towing setup. However with a tow dolly the weight on the hitch is minimal, most of the weight is on the dolly axle and the rear axle of the towed vehicle. With the weight under control the remaining safety concerns are braking and handling. I never went over 45 mph and travelled at a very low traffic time.

    Now that the burb is back in operation that is what I use to tow my various boats and other toys.
     
  16. Oct 30, 2004
    timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

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    Someone here recenlty suggested an open trailer for local CJ moves. Last week I was at the U-Haul yard in Pasadena, and they have at least two open trailers that a CJ would fit in. IIRC the smaller one was 5'x9' with dual wheels. These trailers also had the "easy load" ramps - a CJ could be driven in. You'd have to be careful not to overload. I don't know how the prices compare to the car hauler, but I expect they are cheaper. U-Haul probably will let you rent a 5'x9' with most cars.
     
  17. Oct 30, 2004
    TigerShark

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    Wal-Mart sells tow bars for around $60. You will probably have to fab up a bracket to attach to your bumper though
     
  18. Oct 30, 2004
    Frankenmuth_Tom

    Frankenmuth_Tom Jeep Watcher

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    I bought my jeep on eBay, and had to drive from our farm in Central Michigan to Central Ohio to pick it up. I ordered a dolly via the internet from Uhaul and picked it up in some town down in Ohio. When I got there (a little garage/repair shop) the Dolly wasn't available! The fellow who owned the place had sent a mechanic out to pick up a customers car. So I waited, and waited. When I ordered the dolly, I had to tell them, what I was hauling ('66 CJ-5) and what I was hauling it with ('95 Dodge 1500 1/2 ton) to "qualify" to rent the darn thing. When the mechanic FINALLY arrived with the dolly, he had a late '70's full sized CADDY on the dolly and was pulling it with an S-10 pick-up! So much for "qualifying" what I was going to tow!

    I took the dolly, drove down and loaded the jeep, and hauled it home some 300 miles or so, on the expressway, with no problems.

    Good luck with your project!
     
  19. Oct 30, 2004
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    One of the problems I found with using a U-Haul "auto transport" trailer is that the stops for the front wheels are fixed in one place. The problem with this is that you have no options when it comes to moving the vehicle on the trailer to optimize the tongue weight for safe towing. If the vehicle is too far forward, the bulk of the weight will be on the tow vehicle's hitch, and if it is too far back, there won't be enough tongue weight in order to be stable on the highway. To be safe, the tongue weight MUST be 10-15% of the total weight of the trailer and the cargo. Period. I fit is lighter than that, I guarantee you will have dangerous sway tendencies on the open road. Basic physics at work!

    U-Haul doesn't give you that option, so that is why they are fussy about the tow vehicle. The way their trailers are set up, you will have MUCH more than 15% of the total trailer/cargo weight on the hitch. Hence, the need for a 3/4-ton truck or larger. Too much tongue weight is safer than not enough.

    Some folks would be tempted to use a box truck and just load the Jeep up in the back. While this will work, there is a conspicuous absence of tie-downs in these trucks, so this is not an option. One quick stop is all it would take to flip a truck with an unsecured vehicle in the back. Shifting cargo is way bad. :shock:

    I used to be one of those guys who made do with what is convenient; Guess I'm geting old because I do it the safe way now. :beer:
     
  20. Oct 30, 2004
    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

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    that's why I now rent trailers from hertz equipment. Tell'em hauling my jeep, it wieghs 2800#'s and am useing a full size truck to pull it. NEVER had problems.
     
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