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Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Johns1967CJ5, Jan 12, 2019.

  1. May 11, 2019
    Johns1967CJ5

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    This isn't the one that was in the truck. This is the original
     
  2. May 14, 2019
    Johns1967CJ5

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    One step forward three steps back


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  3. May 15, 2019
    Johns1967CJ5

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    What would cause this damage in 4 of 6 pistons ???


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  4. May 15, 2019
    mortten

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    Detonation? Lean mixture or advanced timing?
     
  5. May 15, 2019
    ojgrsoi

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    Sucking in water while fording with the rpms high?
     
  6. May 16, 2019
    sterlclan

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    Water to ice to crack to shrapnel. Damhik
     
  7. May 16, 2019
    Chilly

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    Ethanol blends are apparently suspected of causing Low Speed Pre-Ignition. It seems the phenomenon is noy completely understood yet. Most papers on it are focused on turbo engines, and say the issue happens at low speed and high loads. Curiously some say the solution is to increase pressure, not decrease it as we may assume. I guess this is what is unique about this latest way to ruin engines with detonation.

    Consider that most turbo engines run a low static CR (8:1, 9:1) and the problem happens at low speeds (low boost so essentially normally aspirated), high loads (lugging up a hill) and it may seem plausible that our engines are operating exactly in that environment. But nobody would bother to write a research paper on ethanol's effect on 50 yr old Jeep engines.
     
  8. May 16, 2019
    Chilly

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    Broken top rings. I don't know what caused them to break. I pulled an old Ford flathead V8 down that had this same issue. That one I believe was caused from rust in the cylinder walls from sitting, then starting it up and putting it into service. Did this engine sit for some time before running it again?
    -Donny
     
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  10. May 17, 2019
    Johns1967CJ5

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    Yes it did
     
  11. May 17, 2019
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    It's that time-saver he has, shown in the same photo. :)

    John, I'm glad you are going original, the Super-Hurricane has enough power to get the truck around and even pass some folks on the highway. It does respond pretty well to a little boost in compression ratio though so you might think about shaving a head a little. Not too much of course or you shroud valves.
    I'd also suggest you get out a die-grinder and sensitive scale, you can do a nice job of balancing your rods and pistons yourself and save a ton of money over having a shop do it. It's not like you are going to be winding your motor way out but careful balance work sure does make the low end sweet!
     
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  12. May 17, 2019
    Johns1967CJ5

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    Got all the parts cleaned up and painted, valve areas are pitted pretty good, going to work on that tomorrow and lap the valves


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  13. May 21, 2019
    Johns1967CJ5

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    I decided to bring both blocks to the machine shop. Didn't like the pitting in the valve seats and one cylinder had some discoloration. Turns out they said the block with the damaged pistons was the better block. It also had the hardened valve seats already from the factory.
    So what they are doing is boring out all the cylinders, removing the broken head bolts, regrinding valve seats and lapping valves, magnaflux and hot tank for 300.00 I will need to order oversized pistons and rings. Money money money
     
  14. May 25, 2019
    Johns1967CJ5

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    My dream garage slowly coming together

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    I Like the Rocker also. :cool:
     
  17. May 25, 2019
    Chilly

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    Friend at work has a Willys wagon with same paint scheme. Small lift, Buick 350. Selling it for some reason. $15.5
     
  18. May 25, 2019
    65seejayfive

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    John, if you pull your truck up a bit there’s room for yet another project :whistle:
     
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  19. May 26, 2019
    Johns1967CJ5

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    I would need that spot for a bed as my wife would throw me out
     
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