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Inline Tube Clutch Cable Information

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by FinoCJ, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. Jun 9, 2020
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    I just threw out the two broken ones that I've been storing on the shelf for whatever pointless reason I keep old broken stuff laying around - parts scavenging I guess. The Crown ones never really bound up on me, but they just break...hopefully done with that issue now. If this works well, I might try to use a similar set-up on the wagon....
     
  2. Jun 9, 2020
    colojeepguy

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    My experience was just the opposite. I never broke one. They'd work ok till they get hot, then they'd be so hard to use you could barely shift.
     
  3. Jun 10, 2020
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    Inline tube replacement fit perfectly...hardest part was the square metal clips that hold the cable housing at the brackets were a bit mangled from use and re-use. Ended up making one from a 1/16" thick metal shim with a 3/8" notch....feels pretty darn solid, but I'll be checking it often to make sure it stays in place (and I have spare just in case).
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    Clutch pedal feels exactly the same as with the Crown version - hopefully it won't do this:
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  4. Jun 11, 2020
    Fireball

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    Well, that's frustrating: "Unfortunately due to the length of time from the original purchase date I am unable to exchange your part. We have a 60 day exchange policy. Thanks, Michael, Inline Tube"

    It's been 90 days since I bought the part but I would have guessed they'd waive the 60 policy since they send a defective part.

    I bought it as a spare and stupidly assumed it was good without checking it. So, a word of warning: The Inline Tube cables look like good parts, but their quality control is suspect. If you get one, verify the cable fits upon receipt. Don't just assume it will fit and put it on the shelf for later use. I know you should always do this with new parts, but wasn't concerned with this one based on recommendations from others here on the site. $80 gone.
     
  5. Jun 11, 2020
    FinoCJ

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    thanks for the update...
     
  6. Jun 11, 2020
    Rubicloak

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    Wow... That's disappointing to hear Roy. :(
     
  7. Jun 11, 2020
    colojeepguy

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    Not cool, thats pretty poor customer service.
     
  8. Jun 11, 2020
    oldtime

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    Fireball, I think that you can fix the cable.
    Just cut the swage off from the end with the clevis.
    Shorten the cable and fix the clevis while your at it.
    Make a new snug fitting ferrule out of steel or stainless. Or even copper and that will swage readily. Swage it back on if your able or carefully braze the ferrule back on using minimal heat.
     
  9. Jun 11, 2020
    Fireball

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    I think I'm going to try that. I've got a swage crimper for working on fencing that should work. That backed up with some solder should hold fine. Nothing to lose at this point.
     
  10. Jun 11, 2020
    FinoCJ

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    I don't have the proper large swaging tool to do such things, but thinking about getting one...I could have used it on the willys parking brake cable and depending on how I work out the clutch on the wagon, it might be useful there too. Seems like a lot of the smaller/cheaper ones will do copper and aluminium, but not steel or stainless - which is were the strength is.
     
  11. Jun 11, 2020
    Oldriginal86

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    Buy another new one, say it’s defective and send back the old, out of date, really bad cable.
     
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  12. Jun 11, 2020
    Rubicloak

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    In this particular case. I totally agree with this statement. Do it.
     
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  13. Jun 11, 2020
    oldtime

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    Oh now come on guys that’s pretty cheesy. I’m no saint but even I know better than that one.
    You never want to meet them at their level.
    It’s a never ending downhill slide.

    My cousin used to pull that kinda nonsense.
    Buy a new flashlight at Walmart , go camping all weekend. He’d take the light back on Monday and tell them the batteries are dead. Seriously ????? Better pray there’s no such thing as karma . Ha ha ha !
     
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    Rubicloak

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    What your cousin did is absolutely an ******* move and under different circumstances I would completely agree with you, but he has not used said cable, has not modified said cable and the cable sent to him was incorrect. They should be replacing the cable period. In this case the karma would be hitting back at them.
     
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  15. Jun 11, 2020
    oldtime

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    Rubi. I certainly don’t mind your thoughts on it.
    How to handle the situation makes for a good conversation.
    And I agree that in an ideal world they should exchange the cable no charge.
    But that’s why they call it a “business” because it is intended to make a profit .
    The way I see it; no one makes profit unless someone else looses out.
    If it were me I sure wouldn’t want to lower myself to that sort of tactic if I had an option.
     
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    Fireball

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    I like the idea of buying another and returning it, but I won't stoop to that. I sent them the link to this forum, so it would be easy for them to find out about it. I'll see if I can shorten the bad one they sent me. I think I'll crimp it with an aluminum ferrule with solder as a backup. Then it will be the spare to get you off the trail, but maybe not for long term usage.
     
  17. Jun 12, 2020
    oldtime

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    It will take a big solder gun to get the ferrule hot enough. Not sure if the common Weller gun could do the job.
    I suggest you experiment with soldering on the scrap cable end before you do the actual cable.
    If planning to solder I would expect soft copper to adhere the tightest after crimping and also take solder the best. Copper soldering requires a rosin flux.
    Yeah you’d think the manufacturer could easily fix the same cable.
    They are no doubt set up with the proper crimping tools.
    Now they may end up loosing customers from this very post that was intended to actually help them.
    Funny how that karma thing works out . Ha ha ha !
     
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    Fireball

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    Reviving an old thread.

    I finally got around to lopping 3 inches of my mis-manufactured Inline Tube clutch cable. I could only source an aluminum ferrule but crimped it three times in two directions. I tried to solder it with a propane torch but even with copious amounts of flux, the solder would not wet the cable. It will support my weight without being soldered, so it's probably good for a trail repair anyway. I bent the clevis to the right shape while I had it off:

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