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i'm calm now... questions regarding saginaw steering lash

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by zed, Sep 17, 2004.

  1. Sep 18, 2004
    gte636p

    gte636p Member

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    what's so wrong with the wiring? my stuff under the dash looks about the same... but after that it all goes into loom until it gets to where it's supposed to be
     
  2. Sep 18, 2004
    timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

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    Yeah, the wiring always looks bad and overwhelming when you look at it all at once. Just trace through the circuits one by one. When everything works, fix any cheesy connections and lace it up with tape or tie-wraps.
     
  3. Sep 18, 2004
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    fortunately i have the original wiring diagrams for this year and model.

    but frame and steering first. :)
     
  4. Sep 18, 2004
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    figured out that the slop is the cumulative effect of all the bizaar links that the po put in to match to the bellcrank.

    and your right it's going.
     
  5. Sep 19, 2004
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    zed - some pics of the 3 I have here to take pics of... Blue one is a manual setup from the 70's - Red one needs support work on mount up front - Black one we refabbed this last winter.

    Hope they help

    :stout:

    er - anyplace I can upload these for you to look at? (my site is down) or an email you want them sent to?

    OK - figured out webshots... I think.
    Warloch's Start Album
     
  6. Sep 19, 2004
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    thanks warloch. i really appreciate the help. i took look at them and they help. is there any problem with you going through the front member with the steering like that?

    ok, first i got rid of abut 50-75% of the lag by tightening the end cap on what used to be the draglink. i tightened all the way and then backed off about 1/2 - 3/4 turn. it's now driveable. but i am driving it only around the block to check stuff out and then to a welding shop. then all that crap gets stripped off!

    i have decided to take it a welding shop i know in town. the owner is exnavy and is still called out by the navy to do under water welding. he also does a lot of work for heavy equip as well as roll cages etc for racing.

    i figure he will ba able to repair the damage from the po. and give me a frame that i can rely on for the street/highway and for offroad. i do NOT intend to get extreme the way i think some of you all do. just nice "old fashioned 4x4 wheeling in the mountains and desert.


    i have included some pics so you all can see the compromised part of the frame. any ideas i can offer the welder from your experience would be appreciated. and i want to thank you for all the advice so far.

    i have a line on a salvaged late model jeep (98 i think) and thought i might take the steering train from it. with/out the airbag of course.

    advice on that plan?

    the saginaw i have will be sold to a guy who rebuilds them since it's a "not too great of version"

    someone here mentioned that i might as well move the crossmember and the radiator forward. why?

    the po also took out the emissions air pump and the air injection manifold. and plugged the ports on the exhaust mani with bolts.
     
  7. Sep 20, 2004
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    That cross member (on the black jeep) was rebuilt with going through it in mind. It is made up of 2 2X thick wall Square tubes - the bottom one is cut on the top, boxed inside, and has the other 2X on top of it for the strength. I have done several this way with no issues so far.

    Personally, I like the manual setups (unless you want the big tires) so I can feel things better when I am on the trails. Look into the older 70's era jeeps for the steering components, or just what ever you need at the pull-n-save.

    :stout:
     
  8. Sep 20, 2004
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    actually i was thinking of going to smaller tires. i like the stability and i agree with the trail feel. but i have to take it as i can afford it. i don't know what i could sell the wheels and tires i have on it now for.
     
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