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Has anyone redrills rim hole pattern???

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by DanStew, Oct 31, 2004.

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  1. Oct 31, 2004
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    I got a really cool set of rims today but unfortuantely i cant use them because i will switch over to waggie 6 lug pattern. I was wodnering if can redrill the mounting plate into a 6 lug pattern?? These are steel wheels.
     
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    mb82

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    how about cut the center out and weld in a center that works? i know they do that with Hummer rims.
     
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    DanStew

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    The centr on the rim is th ecool part. i cant explain it really i have to show the rims in a pic
     
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    mb82

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    cool. you know what im going to say next.

    GOT PICS? :D
     
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    JohnyJeep

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    redrilling is one thing, but how do you get the taper on them where the lug nuts seat? How about wheel adapaters?
     
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    Mcruff

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    Easy use a countersink.
     
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    Glenn

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    What kind of bolt pattern do the wheels you're talking about have? And, what is the measurement for 6 lug spacing wheels? I guess you're talking welding up the existing holes? Must be some really special wheels to want to go to that much trouble. ;)
     
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    w3srl

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    I was thinking more of the issue of the reverse 'dimple' that helps to keep the lug nuts tight. The old 1st generation Jackman wheels were flat (no dimple) and were notorious for the lugs coming loose.
     
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    DanStew

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    I have the CJ 5 on 5.5. The Waggy axle is 6 on 5.5 i think or what every the standard 6 lug pattern is. I woasnt going to weld up the old holes. i was just thinknig bout using them. you really do not see the rims around and would kind of nastalga thing for the cj.
     
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    DanStew

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    the wheels i have ar the old jackman. i will post a pic, let me get a rim out
     
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    Mcruff

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    A countersink puts a chamfer (locking taper) in a hole, you are thinking of a counterbore (puts a flat spot or recess in).
     
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    Hawk62cj5

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    daily driver or off road only machine. Im new to jeeps but have been around racing and off road trucks since I was 7 . I have never saw any good come of tring stuff like that. Ive saw a steel wheels that were just chromed on my buddies truck come apart at 60 mph and with 40 inch tall tires it a long fall and helluva ride.The chrome shop warned him about how there diping prossess weakins the metal. Ive had the spokes on mine to crack so I re welded them but then the medal loses strenth on each side of the weld and i got a new crack .I redone it several times finally just went out and bought a new rim and felt alot better about riding to work too.So if its going to be a daily driver I would think long and hard about it. Offroad only at its worst most likly just embaress you.
     
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    timgr

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    Isn't there a Ford 5 on 5 1/2" spindle/hub for the D44 front? Change it over on the front, and use a 5-lug Wagoneer axle on the rear.
     
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    DanStew

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    Here is a picture of the rims. I am just thinknig bout this if it isnt that hard i may do it. I already have 6 lug rims for the axles so i am not going to be sad.. Here is a pic of the rim.
     
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    willysnut

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    What's chance of that spare holding air?? Love the Jackmans, I remember a more tapered type spoke Jackman, would love to find a set of those.
     
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    Mcruff

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    When you did this the problem was you did not anneal the weld, if you anneal the weld it will hold up, when you weld like this the weld is harder than the virgin material which induces stress next to the weld and then it breaks there, to anneal it you need to heat it up to a dull red and then let it cool slowly!!
     
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    66cj5

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    jc whitney USED to carry adapters for most ANY combination of lugs to wheels. 6 lug to be common.
     
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    gte636p

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    i think what steve was referring to is the raised chamfer type bit on the inside that acts as a sort of lock washer on the nut. if that isn't there, even with the counterbore, you're still just pinching metal together. if'n i'm thinking right the chamfer part puts a steady outward pressure on the lug and helps to make sure the nut doesn't work loose somehow...
     
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    Mcruff

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    If you run a chamfer of less than 9* you don't need the pinching part of the metal as anything less than 9* is considered a locking taper and it would cause the lugnut once seated to lock against the rim in the same manner a drill chuck locks against the arbor it is mounted on. Virtually any taper locked against another taper with a bolt is gonna have a hard time working loose, most rims that are truly flat use a flat faced lugnut (unilug rims come to mind), a tapered seat and a tapered lugnut will make a huge difference.
     
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    jd7

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    Kinda thinking the same thing myself. Scout hub maybe?
     
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