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Dana 30 High Steer

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by coby61, Nov 18, 2006.

  1. Nov 18, 2006
    coby61

    coby61 Stupidiotic Member

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    Anybody know what year and make D44 front knuckles I need to do the conversion. Looks like the regular steering will hit the wrangler SPOA on the 3b. Anything I need to watch out for?
     
  2. Nov 18, 2006
    NoFlyZone

    NoFlyZone Member

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    I don't have any info but keep us updated on this. I am very interested.
     
  3. Nov 18, 2006
    willysworker

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    I have no info either about 44 parts. Would things clear if you fliped to the top side.
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  4. Nov 18, 2006
    coby61

    coby61 Stupidiotic Member

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    I thought about that but it still looks too close for comfort
     
  5. Nov 18, 2006
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    as for spindles i believe you just use teh same ones you have. The 44 and dana 30 spindles are both 6 bolt to bolt on. And i know the brake brackets and everything are the same on th edana 44 as what you would use for a disc swap on the dana 30 if you used teh 6 bolt caliper. I would say get the 44 knuckles and bolt them on. you already ahve the 30 stuff, so bolt them on and see if it works. If not, you didnt buy so you are not out any money. And with the dana 30 spindles the inner bearing will fit around the dana 30 shaft, not sure how much larger the inner bearing on a 44 spndle is and if there is a bearing you can use with the 44 spindle and the 30 shaft.
     
  6. Nov 18, 2006
    coby61

    coby61 Stupidiotic Member

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    coby61

    coby61 Stupidiotic Member

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    OK I may have to rethink this because I would need 76-77 cj 6 bolt caliper mount brackets and rotors and Chevy Dana 44 knuckles that are supposed to be already drilled and tapped. The chevy stuff is easy to get but not too many of the cj 6 bolts are laying around here. I want to keep the Jeep stuff from the spindle out.
     
  8. Nov 18, 2006
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    if you use waggie caliper brackets you couls say it is still jeep all the way out since you will use a jeep rotor and jeep waggie calipers ;) waggie brackets and chevy brackets are identical.
     
  9. Nov 18, 2006
    coby61

    coby61 Stupidiotic Member

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    Some of the D44 waggie front have the flat top some do not. I would like to keep the 5x5 1/2 so that is why I would need the early disc setup. I have the early discs on the rear for a FF and just need to find another set. Anyone have a set????
     
  10. Nov 18, 2006
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    you can keep the 5 on 5.5 if you use the waggie or chevy brackets
    you will just use the chevy/waggie knuckles, disc brackets and calipers. then reuse the dana 30 spindle and bearing hub, then get a 1 1/8 thick CJ rotor and you are golden. I like this setup much more since the 6 bolt CJ calieprs and stuff were only made for 2 years and only for the CJ so parts are not as plentiful as the chevy/waggie setup. And chances are you will get those parts real easy at most FLAPS
     
  11. Nov 19, 2006
    NoFlyZone

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    Keep you eye out for a little while and watch those classifieds. I just picked up two 76 Dana 30s. One is the housing and knuckles only and one was complete from drum to drum. He threw in a total of three sets of tie rods with ends and power saginaw box for another $20. I found this right here on these classifieds.
     
  12. Nov 21, 2006
    53Flattie

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    FWIW - I paid $75 to have the Waggy 44 knuckles drilled and tapped for the hysteer arms. (had both knuckles done)

    Just in case you don't want to bother with the Chevy knuckles.
     
  13. Dec 14, 2006
    Peter_C

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    CJ-X

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    I used chevy knuckles, the 3 bolts drilled out for 5/8 studs. I tried to keep all the Jeep parts since I already had the six bolt brackets, but I ran into a few unexpected problems. I reverted to and recommend GM/Waggy brakes and spindle, thick jeep rotors for 5 x 5.5 pattern. Of course internally splined hubs.
     
  15. Dec 18, 2006
    coby61

    coby61 Stupidiotic Member

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    Bought some chevy knuckles on ebay this weekend already drilled and tapped on both sides. So now I need to find another set of 76 discs to have matching calipers, rotors, and hubs on all 4 corners. :twisted:
     
  16. Dec 19, 2006
    Peter_C

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    So if you are gonna run 5 lug, you need the rare Chevy/Jeep small bearing spindles and I would just buy brand new Ford 1/2 ton rotors, as they are cheap.

    It is all in my previous post.
     
  17. Dec 19, 2006
    zed

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    ok, wait..
    not to hijack this thread but, can i use the waggie caliper mounts on a 27a front axle?

    what about the ford 1/2 ton rotors? they are cheaper than the cj 1 1/8" rotors. but then so are the chevy 1/2 ton rotors. do i have to use the cj rotors?

    ok, i'll give this thread back to coby61. sorry.
     
  18. Dec 21, 2006
    DanStew

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    yup waggie caliper brackets are the same as the chevys. I usually remove the dust shield but you can keep that on. Get the waggie brackets, use waggie calipers, banjo bolts to fit th ecalipers, waggie flex lines. Use Jeep 1 1/8 thick rotors. Use dana 27 spindle, bearing hub and bearings. GRind down the 27 knuckle just a bit for clearance and get a flat allen head plug for the oil fill. Also possible you may have to machine the rear of the bearing hub flat for the rotor to sit flush and true. I didnt but some might.
     
  19. Dec 21, 2006
    Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

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    You can't use the Chevy rotors. Wrong lug pattern.
     
  20. Dec 21, 2006
    CAP

    CAP Fresh out of the clam.

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    I flat-topped a set of late 70's Ford knuckles for my 5. I made up my own bolt pattern and made my own arms. A friend also runs an identical set(running full hydraulic steering). Soooo, if you know a machinist.....
     
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