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Colin's 75 Rebuild

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by Elevatorman, Jan 16, 2019.

  1. Jan 19, 2019
    Elevatorman

    Elevatorman New Member

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    Huh. Odd. I think I'll give patriot a call on Monday and see if they were supposed to. I got them through summit. And when I called to order them the guy assured me they came with them. After they got here and didn't have them I called back and the cut me a good deal on the JBA ones I got. But they aren't an exact fit. If patriot makes one that will bolt right up I'd much rather go that route.
     
  2. Jan 19, 2019
    timgr

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    The original body bolts are 5/16" as I recall. That should be sufficient if you don't add body lift. I've seen these cars wrecked badly and the body won't come off the frame. I suggest comparing the original and repop brackets and such, since you say the bolt holes are too small.
     
  3. Jan 19, 2019
    Elevatorman

    Elevatorman New Member

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    Hmm. I know for sure all the front most bolts for the new tub are 5/16"

    Maybe the ones I took out were not the original ones, but I'm not 100% sure. Im talking about the very rear bolts that go down from the inside of the back area of the tub and bolt into the welded on nuts on the rear crossmember/bumper. Whatever you wanna call it.

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    Either way, your point is pretty good. I'm not putting any body lift on the CJ. 1/4" would probably be ok considering there is multiple other body bolts in. Or drilling it out to 5/16" would be easy to do.

    The original and new brackets aren't the same whatsoever. But they will work.
     
  4. Jan 19, 2019
    Elevatorman

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    Anybody have any exhaust hangers they would recommend??
     
  5. Jan 19, 2019
    sterlclan

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    timgr

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    Back in the day, we would put double clamps and double hangers on the factory exhaust, to make it more durable. Pretty easy to rip the rear hanger off - it was a strip of old tire like this:

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  7. Jan 19, 2019
    Elevatorman

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    Really like them ones from summit, sterclan.

    Thanks fellas.
     
  8. Jan 31, 2019
    Elevatorman

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    So I've been working on the cj when i can. Not many chances here lately. But I did get a full day last weekend to start the exhaust. Pretty happy with it so far. It's just gonna take a while to get it just how I want it.

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    I also got a short chance to work on it today too and I had some concerns about the transmission tunnel and the cover for the transmission so that was my main focus today. I want to get an idea of what I'm gonna do before I get to it so I'm not at a stand still. After doings a good bit of research and reading other people's builds I think I've determined that my trans tunnel is not the correct one for the intermittent CJ5. Pretty sure it's an early CJ or M38 tunnel. Now the tunnel cover I got with tub from Willys Overland fits the tub perfect. But it doesn't fit my transmission. The front face of it is at a slightly different angle than my original cover so it pushes the circle opening back to far. Pictures show it better than I can explain it. But I have no issue using my original tunnel cover, I'd actually prefer to, but I'll have to do something about it mounting to the tub on the front more section. I also don't think the tunnel is correct because the tiny hole that there for my transfer case doesn't seem like it is back nearly far enough for my transfer case shifter. That, and I also have the twin stick conversion so I figured that's not helping either. I'd love to just walk out and look at one of the other body's I have but the tunnel on both are all hacked up. Any advice on what y'all think i should do would be appreciated.

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    Also wanted to see what y'all think of the driveshaft angle I got going on here with the empty tub on it.

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  9. Jan 31, 2019
    ITLKSEZ

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    That's a good looking build.

    I can't comment on the floor issues, but the driveshaft angle will be fine as long as the t-case output and pinion angles match. Easily checked with a magnetic angle finder stuck to the faces of the yokes.

    Also, it might just be an illusion due to camera optics, but your driveshaft looks a hair out of phase? (The flats of the yokes on the driveshaft should rest flat in a bench at the same time.)
     
  10. Jan 31, 2019
    sterlclan

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    the dirty cover fits pretty good,add the hole for your twin sticks and make a boot to cover the holes. your exhaust follows the same path as mine so far,i used jones turbo tubes with some flex pipe (like the ones on a front wheel drive car ) and a pair of header collectors to unhook the mufflers and tailpipes.
     
  11. Feb 1, 2019
    Elevatorman

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    Thanks ITLKSEZ, I totally forgot about that rule.... :confused: But I'll check them next time I get to the jeep. The driveshaft is good though. Must just be the pic. I laid them on the ears when I painted them. Lined up perfect.

    Sterclan, I know I'm way overthinking it. It is as easy as you just made it sound. The only problem with the original cover, and it's hard to see in the pic, it the front lip that comes up sits about 1/4-3/8 off the tub when it's sitting where it needs to be. But I think I can just roll the edges of it enough to make it look good.

    Is gonna hurt me to have to cut this "new" tub up. But I don't mind doing it. (Im gonna make a detailed review of this repli-tub when I'm done, because I couldn't find any current or detailed ones when I searched) Ive been searching trying to find a picture of an intermittent tunnel so I can try to match it instead of just cutting away at it.

    I'm gonna TIG the whole front section of pipe up the the muffler and the whole rear section after the muffler and I got these neat clamps from summit to clamp the muffler in. Lap joint band clamps. One side is for 2.5 inch pipe and the other necks up for the bell end of the other section of pipe. I never knew there was all those cool clamps out there! :D

    P.S. - I learned how to use the smiley faces!
     
  12. Feb 1, 2019
    James Robbins

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    I'm bringing my '73 to you, dropping it off with a blank check my man. Good stuff!
     
  13. Feb 1, 2019
    Elevatorman

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    I appreciate that James! But you’ll have to get in line.. got a 79 F250 that needs some drivetrain attention after this project, then I’m gonna be taking all my leftovers from this one and building a wheeling Jeep. I’ll give you a shout in about two years! Haha
     
  14. Feb 7, 2019
    Elevatorman

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    Been on a parts ordering spree the last two day, but one thing I can't find an answer to is the fuel filler setup. The one that was on the jeep was all messed up and trash. Im looking for the correct one. I can't even find any pictures on it though. I did find one thing on eBay that looked like it would be the correct one. Anyone able to confirm it for me though before I order it?

    JEEP FUEL FILL NECK KIT 1970 - 1976 CJ5 CJ6 FOR REAR FILL TANK 992923K NEW! | eBay
     
  15. Feb 7, 2019
    timgr

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    72 Cj5 Filler Neck Oddity Look at the link in post #11 from Jeff.

    The eBay ad is wrong - that filler was never used in 1976. 1975 last year.
     
  16. Feb 7, 2019
    Elevatorman

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    Awesome, thanks!

    Don't know how I missed that thread.. It's brand new..

    Exhaust will be completed tomorrow!
     
  17. Feb 8, 2019
    Elevatorman

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    All done! Taking it off in the morning and taking it to get tig welded. Also got different style clamps. The lap clamps from summit I was surpringly dissapointed with.

    Also the first bend after the mufflers is pretty close to the gas tank (2-3 inches) so I'm looking at a heat shield or heat wrap for that section. Any recommendations?

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  18. Feb 8, 2019
    Dphillip

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    That looks outstanding, great work!

    Summit Racing offers several types of heat shield that is flexible and adhesive backed. It would probably apply nicely to your poly tank.
     
  19. Feb 8, 2019
    timgr

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    Thin steel with air on both sides would work too. Exhaust looks good.
     
  20. Feb 9, 2019
    sterlclan

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    what kind of mufflers are those? except for the tailpipes going straight over the axle that looks almost the same as mine I went over the axle at a 45 so the pipes weren't as close to the tank. the tips are in the same spot. looks nice.
     
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