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CJ3B Beastie

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by browncoat, Apr 15, 2017.

  1. May 20, 2018
    browncoat

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    Yes, abbreviation for registration.(y)

    I guess it's like our version of paying for "tags" some states in the US use, basically just a yearly safety check and payment of tax and insurance to be able to drive a vehicle on the road.
     
  2. May 20, 2018
    47v6

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    Every state here is different. Some wont let you modify your vehicle legally and others require similar things as you, like making sure the tires are covered by fenders etc. Some states require a real inspection where they measure brake linings and make sure you have all the required parts your vehicle came with. Sometimes its idiotic.. I happen to live here in Washington, D.C. where until recently the DMV was a nightmare, but now I got my 2A through with a suspect title and all the mods with zero real inspection. Lucky this time.
     
  3. May 20, 2018
    sterlclan

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    i feel blessed,dont need a title after i think 20 years,easy visual safety inspection once a year,registrations at the town hall.no local pd,no stop lights,fast food or shopping malls.
     
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  4. May 21, 2018
    browncoat

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    Made some covers for the seat belt mechanisms.

    Will keep at least some crud off them, I hope.
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    Then did the last item on the engineers modification list, extend the bull bar.
    I actually don't mind how they ended up looking so maybe they will stay that way.
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  5. May 21, 2018
    browncoat

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    So, this is the beastie basically completed.
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  6. May 21, 2018
    browncoat

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    Then the beastie got off it's chain and headed in to town to get its brake test and a weigh bridge ticket.
    Full finished weight was 1.36 ton.

    The longest run it has done so far, about a 25 KM round trip. (15.5 miles)
    Feels smoother to drive than the CJ5 and everything worked OK apart from the brake pedal could do with a spring to assist it back up to activate the brake light switch in a more positive fashion.
    And the hand brake needs a stronger spring also as it is jamming in the on position and needs a little bump to release the pads off the disc.

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    So now I wait for the engineers report, then I can get the rego completed.
    Hoping the parts for the speedo reduction gear get here shortly then I can finish that, and get the speedo working instead of peering at the little speed read out on the GPS.


    Filled up the fuel tanks on the way home and it took about 70 litres to fill both.
    The rear had around 20- 30 litres in it already and the front tank was empty, so about 90 to 100 litres total capacity.
     
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  7. May 21, 2018
    47v6

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    Fantastic. So, I assume it passed the brake test? Really nice looking jeep and great job! Your build has really made me think about other options for power and transmissions. The build with the extra wheelhouse compartments is great. It never occurred to me to actually MAKE my own windshield frame, but why not? Just an overall great build thread.
     
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  8. May 21, 2018
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  9. May 21, 2018
    browncoat

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    Yes, passed the brake test with flying colours.
    The bloke said he was surprised how even it was between the left and right sides. Better than most modern cars.

    Front to rear bias was 84% front and 16% rear which passes, but I can adjust that with the proportioning valve in the rear brake line.

    I don't plan to change anything, it brakes well, so no reason to do anything.
     
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  10. May 21, 2018
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    This has been an amazing build just to follow on this forum. I wish Australia was closer so we could see your beautiful 3B in person. Thanks for doing such a thorough job of detailing your progress for us all to share with you!
     
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  13. May 22, 2018
    browncoat

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    Yeah, not so fast everybody....

    Last night the engineer emails me regarding the brake test.

    its passed a brake test by rego standards but it wont pass full testing as per brake assessment manual

    max front to rear is 80/20 also the right to left front balance is way off.......right front is coming on to hard.....lose so right front and it will work.....start by checking flex hoses and or leftfront caliper for sticky piston




    The front to rear bias is a fair call, and I think relatively easy to fix. I've got 84% / 16%.

    But, the idea he has about the right front brake coming on hard and needs rectification I think is rubbish.

    There is only 3% difference between the front right and left brakes on average with a maximum difference at one point of 9%.
    So not exactly "way off" like he says.

    According to the brake manual he refers to, the acceptable allowed is 30% difference. Yes 30%.

    So I have asked him to confirm.

    How close between left and right do I need to get it?
    At the moment it is 3% average difference.



    Not impressed.:mad:
     
  14. May 22, 2018
    ITLKSEZ

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    Bring it to the states, fill it up with cheap(er) diesel and live happily ever after. ;)
     
  15. May 22, 2018
    browncoat

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    Hoping the engineer is just over worked and looked at the wrong numbers.

    Brain wave.

    I think the scanner has cropped off the left side and he hasn't realised it.

    Will resend it to him.
     
  16. May 22, 2018
    browncoat

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    That's better.

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  17. May 23, 2018
    browncoat

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    :mad::mad::mad::mad:
    Starting to remember why I enjoy being self employed on private projects rather than working for bigger firms that have to deal with engineers on a regular basis.

    Seems to me that any time an engineer is involved it turns into a frustrating drama show.

    Now he has decided he doesn't want that particular brake test, it needs to be the same test, but on a newer machine.
    Would have been nice to know this 3 days ago.


    we need a plateronic done on the latest machine which photographs and graphs the test as well......brakes at the bay at warners bay or curleys garage at warners bay have one.
    maitland toyota is old machine

    based on that i will decide if it needs a full brake test ....which it may.....

    also we need a weighbridge cert .......i have always accepted them from maitland council althought their status has come into question lately

    the closest one to you that is listed is weston wluminium



    So even if it passes, he might want more in depth tests yet.:mad::mad::booo::gaah:



    So this time I had to drive beastie all the way in to Newcastle to find a machine that will do what he wants.
    This trip was 50 KM each way, part of it on the expressway so at least it was a chance to squirt the throttle and see what it would do.

    Top speed I got to was 106 KMH (close to 66MPH) but it seemed to be happier to cruise at around 100KMH (62 MPH)
    I have a tacho on the way to be installed so I can check what the RPM's are doing but it doesn't sound too bad from listening over the wind noise.

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    It passed again, and the rear to front bias was rectified to be 75% front / 25% rear.


    Down side, the run has started to show up some weak points.
    I now have a oil leak from the front of the engine. I think it may be the main seal on the crankshaft.
    Not really surprising, the engine did sit for 37 years before it was started so the seal deteriorating should not be a shock.
     
  18. May 23, 2018
    47v6

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    37years? wow seen kicking around for a while. Better to do the shakedown now rather than when its a real problem. So, you can drive it to get the certs? If one machine is licensed and capable of performing the test, whats the problem? Still passed the test. Time to put that engineers stamp on the paperwork and move on.
     
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  19. May 23, 2018
    browncoat

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    Engine was built in 1981. Then used for a training tool till it sat on the stand for 30 plus years untouched.

    Yes, can drive it directly to and from locations for the purpose of testing or inspecting.
    Sent him the results from today, so now wait to see if he wants to do even more brake testing.:waiting:

    Auto engineers here are heavily scrutinized by the regulatory authority, the Roads and Maritime Services.


    So they are very skittish about letting anything past that might get them in trouble if there is an audit or worse, an accident and they are particular about crossing the T's and dotting the I's.

    I get he's under pressure to do it right, but it is frustrating all the same when his requirements seem to change at a whim.

    To clarify, most vehicle registration is a fairly straight forward process.
    A mechanic inspects the car and has a checklist of things that need to be in place.
    Then you go get it registered.

    Because I have modified the beastie with different than original;
    engine
    brakes
    seats
    seatbelt
    steering linkages / power steer

    Then an engineer, not a mechanic has to assess and confirm the mods are compliant before a mechanic does his part and checks all the basic systems.
     
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  20. May 23, 2018
    sterlclan

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    Seems to me that making you drive it all over to get it tested is kind of silly seeing as it needs a test so it’s safe to drive
     
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