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Carter Yf Metering Rod/running Rough

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by termin8ed, Mar 7, 2020.

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  1. Mar 9, 2020
    termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

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    Smokey, but it burns some oil. I cant keep it running to smell if it is fuel, oil, or coolant
     
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    Glenn

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    Does the carburetor base gasket have the notch/notches in it for the YF vacuum? I assume you were able to get the metering rod adjusted as the manual calls for?
     
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    Glenn

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    Any chance the exhaust is partially blocked?
     
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    termin8ed

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    Possible ive got/had mice in there but it ran fine then died all of a sudden. Thought it was from running out of gas, but it seems to be getting enough fuel.
     
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    termin8ed

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    I have not replaced the coil. Being 1 and 4 are every other in the firing order, weak coil cause something like this?
     
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    termin8ed

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    Talking to one of the techs here at work and im getting a new coil on lunch.
     
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    Glenn

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    Let's hope that's the fix!
     
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    termin8ed

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    Well the few minutes i had it didnt want to catch. I'll try again after work
     
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    Glenn

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    Did you check the timing as you had mentioned?
     
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    Rick Whitson

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    You said it ran good for a minute, so it can't be a crossed wire? Right? Just grabbing straws, here.
     
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    Glenn

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    You and me both. I'm certainly :confused::shrug:.
     
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    termin8ed

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    I'll check timing tonight. Ive checked wires 3 times thinking i did that. All good.
     
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    scoutpilot

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    Did you flood it? If the plugs are wet, they won't fire.
     
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  14. Mar 11, 2020
    termin8ed

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    I give up for now. I need to get a new battery which i will get this weekend and try again. May throw some new plugs in anyways. Im getting spark to the plugs, just not firing.
    Ill make sure 1 is at tdc and check rotor position. Unless i got some bad gas:shrug:
    Just need a couple hrs to go over everything in 1 sitting.

    I've been picking the brain of one of the techs at work too.
     
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    Rick Whitson

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    I will drive up to Mason and Help if you want me to, maybe between the two of us we can work it out. Let me know, I am going to the cabin as soon as I can now that the Virus is in Detroit. I am getting a new truck next week, and getting out of here. Rick
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Nice bright purple/blue spark or orangei-red?
     
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    termin8ed

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    My spark tester is a glowy orange thing. Seems bright like it always is on other cars. Getting a battery from work today so we will see if that helps any.

    SG Tool Aid 36350 In-Line Spark Checker

    This is what i have. I'll admit it works good as a yes/no spark tester. Never ran into a weak spark situation yet. Might have to find one of the old school gap style testers
     
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    termin8ed

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    I give up for now. I need to get a carb kit and try rebuilding it. Only thing that makes sense right now.
    Got spark to all 4.
    Good compression on all 4.
    Valves have good lash adjustments.
    Checked timing at tdc and it should be close enough to run.

    Either i dumped some bad gas in or the carb is plugged up somewhere
     
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  19. Mar 14, 2020
    mickeykelley

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    Be aware that not all rebuild kits are equal. Pay attention as to whether yours has a check ball and weight or just a weight for the circuit the has the accelerator pump before it. Also, is your needle and seat solid or rubber. May have changed over the years. I'd get with scoutpilot (Home | Old Jeep Carbs LLC) here. He posted on this thread above.
     
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    Rick Whitson

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    The Carter Kit I bought was mostly junk. After I got my carb done I could not get it to dial in, everything was wrong. I wound up putting all the original parts back in and only used the gaskets and accelerator pump, it still runs good. Good Luck
     
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