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Buick 198 Parts?????

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by BB '60 CJ5, Mar 12, 2019.

  1. Mar 12, 2019
    BB '60 CJ5

    BB '60 CJ5 New Member

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    I have a 1960 CJ5 that was handed down to me by my Grandfather. He replaced the stock motor with a Buick 198, I believe out of a '63 Special. I am having a hard time finding parts for the motor. I have read enough of these forums to know that is the downfall of that motor, but I am hoping to restore it the way it is. Unfortunately the motor had some issues so I had it torn down and rebuilt prior to doing enough research to learn that parts would be difficult at best to come by. I am now in the process of putting it all back together.

    I will take any and all advise on where I can find parts for the motor to get it back running.

    Thank You in advance.
     
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    Vanguard

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    jpflat2a

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    As mentioned above, whatcha lookin for ?
     
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    Vanguard

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    I think the primary disadvantage of the 198 was the bell housing at the rear of the motor. It retained the round shape from the buick aluminum V8 and was only used on the 198, which tends to make transmission adapters hard to find. I don't recall if the 198 has the heavy flywheel either. But in regards to the bellhousing, if it's already in the jeep you have the adapter already. I think pistons, rings, valves, lifters were shared with the 300 as well.

    For most motor parts either RockAuto or your FLAPS should be a good source of parts. I would also look up other early 60s Buicks that came with the 198 and browse RockAuto for motor parts, if needed.

    If it's not a motor part though, you're pretty much standard jeep.
     
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    Keys5a

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    The Buick 198 V6 and 215 alloy V8 were the two engines offered from '61-'63 in the compact "Special" model. They share many parts, and certainly the 215 have much more parts availability. There were also Olds and Pontiac versions, with the Pontiac being nearly identical to the Buick, only used for the first two years. The Olds version was very similar, but had a different valve and rocker setup, and an extra headbolt per cylinder.
    The 198 was an odd-fire, and was the predecessor to the 225 V6 that came out in '64. The biggest difference was the 225 went to the BOP bellhousing pattern, while the 198 shared the "2-ear" pattern with the 215 V8. This 2-ear pattern was used up to around the 2004 year in Land Rover models on their alloy V8's based on the Buick 215.
    What specific parts do you need for your engine? Depending on what you need, either the 225 V6 or 215 V8 parts may be the same.
    You likey have the shallow 198 bellhousing which mated the engine directly to the T90 Jeep transmission. It was a natural swap. The 215 V8 drops right in too!
    -Donny
     
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    timgr

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    First post - welcome from Boston!

    I suggest that you take a bunch of pictures of what you have and post them. Details about what parts you need and any questions about engine assembly or other mechanical issues can be noted next to the pictures. Can't add anything about the 198 except that, except for the odd-fire firing angle, it's a conventional cast iron pushrod engine of the era. Gray iron block, cast iron crank, conventional tech from Detroit except for the odd-fire config. Not exotic, but low production numbers and little aftermarket support today. It'll work great in your Jeep if you can get it back to good running order. Kanter was linked above - their business is supporting these oddball engines, and they should have many of the parts you need. Check RockAuto too, but realize that aftermarket parts listings can have errors, and this is not unusual for oddballs.
     
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    Warloch

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    Besides the outside of the motor - there are many internal differences between the 198 and the 225. If your going to keep it or try to do much with the V6 motors I highly recommend Pat Ganahl's book on V6 motors as a reference.

    One of the few places I could get reliable parts for the 198 was TA Performance, but that was years ago. They might be worth checking in addition to the RockAuto's.
     
  9. Feb 8, 2020
    BB '60 CJ5

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    Sorry, I should have been more specific. I am looking for exhaust manifolds. I ran into a dead end and cannot find replacements anywhere. Any idea would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    BB '60 CJ5

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    currently looking for exhaust manifolds. Any Ideas?
     
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    44bz

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    225 manifolds bolt up.
     
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    Keys5a

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    I'm pretty sure the Buick 231/3.8 exhaust bolt up too.
    -Donny
     

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